Is something Burning in OC

From this current pic, looks like we are burning back on our side of Main Divide again:

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BonsaiNut said:
It all depends on the oaks. If the oaks survived, you might be surprised how fast that canyon recovers. Those coast live oaks have thick bark for a reason, and deep roots. After a fire you will often find saplings that were burned to the soil level - resprouting and growing like mad because they no longer have shade competition. Some of those oaks are well over 100 years old and have survived fires before. Let us hope for the best.
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There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
 
Sidewalk said:
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
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Easy there Geddy...
 
Joanna Hubble wrote:


The fire continued to spread throughout the night. Short range spotting and roll-out continue to increase fire spread and resistance to control.

Active fire behavior is driven by the dry fuels and the very high temperatures.

An Excessive Heat Warning for the fire area has been issued. Weather conditions with temperatures exceeding 100 degrees and relative humidity below 15 will provide conditions for extreme fire behavior.

The Fire will continue to spread east and north with only limited spread to the west. Steep,

inaccessible, terrain will continue to pose firefighter access challenges, and will allow for strong head-fire runs. There will be short to moderate spotting in the dry receptive fuels, with rapid uphill runs and flanking fire. The atmosphere over the fire continues to be very unstable and will allow for large smoke column development and active to extreme fire behavior.

Suppression efforts will focus on the most critical parts of the fire perimeter including the communities threatened by fire. The priority will be to keep the fire from spreading into the communities located in Orange County and Riverside County or further to the south which could threaten the HWY 74 corridor.

Crews and engines will be supported by aircraft to build direct line on the most critical parts of the fire. Fire resources will be providing structure protection in the areas threatened by the fire. Hand-crews will continue to build fire line from the point of origin towards the north and east. Dozers will continue to build and reinforce lines and contingency lines between the fire and the structures.

Limited visibility, due to smoke, could restrict the use of aircraft.

After completing a structure assessment in the Holy Jim community, there are 12 confirmed structures lost during the initial attack phase of the fire.

The incident is now in unified command with US Forest Service, CAL Fire, Riverside County Fire, Orange County Fire Authority, and the California Highway Patrol.


MANDATORY EVACUATION NOTICES:

All residents in the following communities are under mandatory evacuation:

McVicker Canyon
Rice Canyon
Horsethief Canyon
El Cariso
Rancho Capistrano
Blue Jay
Indian Canyon
Glen Eden
Sycamore Creek
Mayhew Canyon.

There are hard road closures for the areas under evacuation order. Until these closures are lifted, residents are not permitted back to check on or get small animals.

Highway 74 eastbound is closed. Residents in the Highway 74 corridor must travel westbound only.

Please call 714/573-6210 for more information.

A joint information center has been established to provide information to the public. The hours are 7:00 a.m. – 10:00 p.m. In the event there is an evacuation order, the center will be open 24/7.

Contact: Fire Information (714) 573-6210 or (714) 573-6202

The media should contact the incident public information line at (657) 345-4277.


· CARE & RECEPTION SITES

· Temescal Canyon High School, 28755 El Toro Rd Lake Elsinore CA 92532

· San Juan Hills High School located at 29211 Stallion Ridge, San Juan Capistrano.


If any Orange County evacuees needs assistance, they should contact the Public Information Hotline 714-628-7085



ANIMAL SHELTERS

Small Animals are being accepted at:


1. Veterinary Medical and Surgical Group – Orange County (VMSG – OC) – 24 hour facility 31896 Plaza Dr. Ste C1, San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675

949-400-5091


2. OC Animal Care at 1630 Victory Road in Tustin, CA 92782

714-935-6848 (8:00 am to 5:00 pm) and 714-259-1122 (after hours)



The Public Information Hotline remains activated for questions and updates on the incident at 714-628-7085


People can also monitor these locations for more information:


SOCIAL MEDIA

· U.S. Forest Service Twitter: @ClevelandNF

· U.S. Forest Service Facebook: @clevelandnf

· Orange County Fire Authority Twitter: @OCFA_PIO

· Orange County Fire Authority Facebook: @OrangeCountyFire

· Orange County Emergency Operations Center Twitter: @OrangeCountyEOC

· Orange County Emergency Operations Center Facebook: @OrangeCountyEOC

· Primary hashtag is #HolyFire

· Website OCgov.com

· Website: Alertoc.com

· Website Rivcoready.org

· Website: rivcoready.gov/alertrivco


Here is a link to live webcams on Santiago Peak:


https://www.rntl.net/orangefirewebcams.htm


Please click here for HolyFire Community Meeting Information



PS: Anyone wishing to get onto Joanna's contact list can get in touch with her and request it. She does a great job of communicating all emergencies in the OC canyon/foothills area.

Joanne Hubble
Emergency Planning, Coordination & Communication
East Orange County Canyons
jahubble@occoxmail.com
714.307.4806
twitter: @joannehubble
 
rossage said:
I rode the ANF after the Station Fire, against the closure orders, so I could see for myself what happened up there.
The ashen moonscape was littered with the charred remains of small rodents, ravens calling with glee at the newfound feast.
Hot spots puffed smoke and ashy dust devils blew across the fireroad.
The road and trails stood out, tan against grey. Already small rockfall and debris cones were forming. Traction was great, vision outstanding.
There were no signs of any firefight that occurred in the area. It was left to burn while the fight was elsewhere.
The real trouble began when the rains hit. Trickles became torrents and the naked hillsides began to fall. Trails were filled in and ruined by slumps, debris and downed trees. Thousands of trees.
With the moisture came the infamous poodledog bush. A fragrant, green, soil protector that happens to pack a punch of inflammatory oils and spices. Expect five to seven years of that.
Nine years now and things are getting back to normal. Still have some mostly political closures but people are back riding and hiking and whatever.
The trails are in the best shape I've ever seen, though some have been significantly smoothed and P-lined.
Yes, you all have lost a lot. With some hard work and patience, you can get it back.
Patience grasshoppers...
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EDIT: Yes, poodle dog bush was mentioned... I really, really hope that doesn't start growing in the Santa Anas after this...
 
rossage said:
I rode the ANF after the Station Fire, against the closure orders, so I could see for myself what happened up there.
The ashen moonscape was littered with the charred remains of small rodents, ravens calling with glee at the newfound feast.
Hot spots puffed smoke and ashy dust devils blew across the fireroad.
The road and trails stood out, tan against grey. Already small rockfall and debris cones were forming. Traction was great, vision outstanding.
There were no signs of any firefight that occurred in the area. It was left to burn while the fight was elsewhere.
The real trouble began when the rains hit. Trickles became torrents and the naked hillsides began to fall. Trails were filled in and ruined by slumps, debris and downed trees. Thousands of trees.
With the moisture came the infamous poodledog bush. A fragrant, green, soil protector that happens to pack a punch of inflammatory oils and spices. Expect five to seven years of that.
Nine years now and things are getting back to normal. Still have some mostly political closures but people are back riding and hiking and whatever.
The trails are in the best shape I've ever seen, though some have been significantly smoothed and P-lined.
Yes, you all have lost a lot. With some hard work and patience, you can get it back.
Patience grasshoppers...
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I copied and pasted this post to an email which I sent to the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department. Expect to hear a knocking at your door within 48 hours.
 
Sidewalk said:
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
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Dude, what a head Rush that is!
 
Cornholio said:
Almost seems too late to rethink our approach as a society on political correctness since it’s spiraled out of control. I could see an opposition to force a guy like this into treatment, whether temporary or permanent, from people complaining about his right to independence. Should we come to terms with the fact that some people are just not fit for society?
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The problem is that people believe you can turn to government to solve all ills. You can't. But what happens is that when private individuals step in to solve a problem, the government eventually hears about it and gets pissy because you are stepping on their turf. Then the issue gets turned around so that the focus isn't the original problem that needed attention, but rather the people who had the nerve to try to solve it.

The government uses this example to create more rules, more bureaucracy, and increased reach into our daily lives... while still doing nothing.
 
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