The Fire Thread

[mtbMike]

Looks like the smoke has found its way to Prescott....

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I was there on Friday & Saturday and while I heard it was worse easier in the week, it was a non-issue while we there. Couldn't smell it at all and didn't effect us in any way. On the drive home, we stopped in Moreno Valley to run into a tile store and the smoke was horrendous....2nd worst conditions I've ever experienced, surpassed only by when I worked the front lines of the monster fires in San Diego.

 

[Derkderkall]

Wilson eastward facing camera....
http://hpwren.ucsd.edu/cameras/I/wilson-e-mobo-c.html

 

[mtbMike]

Wilson eastward facing camera....
http://hpwren.ucsd.edu/cameras/I/wilson-e-mobo-c.html

I haven't been following this closely enough. Has the fire actually burned any of the main Mount Wilson trails yet or is it still too far to the East?

 

[Derkderkall]

I haven't been following this closely enough. Has the fire actually burned any of the main Mount Wilson trails yet or is it still too far to the East?

There's a good chance the gabrielino section of the Sturtevant descent will go soon.. if not already

 

[Derkderkall]

Sounds like Chantry got hit

"Throughout the day, strategic control burning was utilized in the south as fire remained very active reaching Chantry Flat in Santa Anita Canyon. Handcrews and dozers are working in the areas around Mt. Wilson and Mt. Harvard as the fire has grown significantly west"

 

[herzalot]

We need an alternative to the "like" button. More of a "thanks for posting." Let's assume in a thread such as this, our "likes" really mean thanks.

And this sucks really bad. I am sorry for all of you who are losing one trail after another.

 

[SnakeCharmer]

The smoke is back.

 

[alexfore]

Fire reached Chantry and is progressing west and north from there. All the trails starting at Chantry are probably in the burned zone. Also appears it is making its way towards Waterman, already reaching the waterman trail and nearly at the access road.. I wish there was good news

https://www.facebook.com/AdamsPackStation/posts/2016405531824370
https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=34.30034,-117.91643&z=12&b=om&o=r&n=0.01&a=modis_vp,wxd_wspd-01

 

[SnakeCharmer]

Fire reached Chantry and is progressing west and north from there. All the trails starting at Chantry are probably in the burned zone. Also appears it is making its way towards Waterman, already reaching the waterman trail and nearly at the access road.. I wish there was good news

https://www.facebook.com/AdamsPackStation/posts/2016405531824370
https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=34.30034,-117.91643&z=12&b=om&o=r&n=0.01&a=modis_vp,wxd_wspd-01

Bummer

 

[rossage]

Fire reached Chantry and is progressing west and north from there. All the trails starting at Chantry are probably in the burned zone. Also appears it is making its way towards Waterman, already reaching the waterman trail and nearly at the access road.. I wish there was good news

https://www.facebook.com/AdamsPackStation/posts/2016405531824370
https://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=34.30034,-117.91643&z=12&b=om&o=r&n=0.01&a=modis_vp,wxd_wspd-01

Brutal.

 

[scottay]

Thats gotta be getting close to areas that have already burned recently. I remember that upper area was where PoodleDog brush was re-discovered as the Evil Weed.
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[rossage]

Thats gotta be getting close to areas that have already burned recently. I remember that upper area was where PoodleDog brush was re-discovered as the Evil Weed.
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Station fire was in 2009. Enough has grown back to fuel the progress, though the fire is less intense and moving slower.
They ran dozers up San Oline last time but it looks like it has passed that fire break already.

Monday, Monday,
Can't trust that day...

 

[Derkderkall]

Thats gotta be getting close to areas that have already burned recently. I remember that upper area was where PoodleDog brush was re-discovered as the Evil Weed.
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That's the plan, force it into the older burn scars to help manage the fire.

Sucks that it's going through the dark side in the mean time...

 

[rossage]

The trails will be there. They just won't be the same. The real destruction comes with the rains.
Funny how most of us never realized how exposed the Merrils, Sunset, Ken Burton, really are until after the fires.

 

[SnakeCharmer]

The trails will be there. They just won't be the same. The real destruction comes with the rains.
Funny how most of us never realized how exposed the Merrils, Sunset, Ken Burton, really are until after the fires.

I know exactly how exposed Upper Winter Creek trail is....

 

[Cyclotourist]

Mixed news from back east: El Dorado fire nearly 50% contained, and very little growth. Evacuation orders lifted for Yucaipa and Oak Glen. Buuuuut, a very frantic/strongly worded evacuation order for Angelus Oaks just went out. Looks like the fire is crawling around San Bernardino peak instead of straight up it.

Some peeps up at ElDo yesterday:

 

[rossage]

I know exactly how exposed Upper Winter Creek trail is....

Middle Merrill has a spot called "the widowmaker". At least one mtber has died going over there.

 

[SnakeCharmer]

Mixed news from back east: El Dorado fire nearly 50% contained, and very little growth. Evacuation orders lifted for Yucaipa and Oak Glen. Buuuuut, a very frantic/strongly worded evacuation order for Angelus Oaks just went out. Looks like the fire is crawling around San Bernardino peak instead of straight up it.

Some peeps up at ElDo yesterday:

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That looks yucky.

 

[SnakeCharmer]

Middle Merrill has a spot called "the widowmaker". At least one mtber has died going over there.

Yep, that turn has scared the fecal matter out of me each time Ive done it.

 

[mtbMike]

Mixed news from back east: El Dorado fire nearly 50% contained, and very little growth. Evacuation orders lifted for Yucaipa and Oak Glen. Buuuuut, a very frantic/strongly worded evacuation order for Angelus Oaks just went out. Looks like the fire is crawling around San Bernardino peak instead of straight up it.

Some peeps up at ElDo yesterday:

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Well, if it's anything like San Clemente Singletracks down here in OC, it grows back much faster than expected and in no time at all you'll be wondering...."is anybody going to cut back this overgrowth"? Thanks for the photos. This was San Clemente Singletracks one week after the fire.

 

[Poofighter]

Middle Merrill has a spot called "the widowmaker". At least one mtber has died going over there.

And one guy went over and fell towards the end of Sunset Ridge several years back. He's luck and made it out alive.

I guess since Newcombs is on the eastern edge of Chantry that is gone as well. Hopefully, the cabins made it out unscathed.

 

[Derkderkall]

Current map

 

[rossage]

Well, if it's anything like San Clemente Singletracks down here in OC, it grows back much faster than expected and in no time at all you'll be wondering...."is anybody going to cut back this overgrowth"? Thanks for the photos. This was San Clemente Singletracks one week after the fire.

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Oh yeah, it starts growing back fast. And so does the poodle dog bush.
What will be missing is the trees. The big trees will never be back in our lifetimes.

The amount of fuel, dead trees, on the backside of Wilson is unbelievable, but I've seen it. Very concerning.

 

[rossage]

And one guy went over and fell towards the end of Sunset Ridge several years back. He's luck and made it out alive.

I guess since Newcombs is on the eastern edge of Chantry that is gone as well. Hopefully, the cabins made it out unscathed.

Check @Derkderkall maps. The fire has burned up to Newcombs saddle. Don't confuse it with Newcombs Ranch, the bar/restaurant on the 2 at Chilao. So far, the fire hasn't burned that way.
Fingers crossed.

 

[Poofighter]

Oh yeah, it starts growing back fast. And so does the poodle dog bush.
What will be missing is the trees. The big trees will never be back in our lifetimes.

The amount of fuel, dead trees, on the backside of Wilson is unbelievable, but I've seen it. Very concerning.

The amount of trees at Chantry is little unique compared to most of the trails in Socal. The canopy of trees is thick and in the fall with the colors is my favorite place to ride on WEEKDAYS.

 

[rossage]

The amount of trees at Chantry is little unique compared to most of the trails in Socal. The canopy of trees is thick and in the fall with the colors is my favorite place to ride on WEEKDAYS.

It's gonna look a lot different when we get back up there...

 

[SnakeCharmer]

The amount of trees at Chantry is little unique compared to most of the trails in Socal. The canopy of trees is thick and in the fall with the colors is my favorite place to ride on WEEKDAYS.

That could be a sign that the area has not burned in a very long time.

 

[rossage]

That could be a sign that the area has not burned in a very long time.

Last night is not very long ago...before that it was the 1950s.

 

[Danmtchl]

This what it looks like on my ride this morning, looking east towards Hwy 178/ mouth of the canyon.

 

[Cyclotourist]

Well, if it's anything like San Clemente Singletracks down here in OC, it grows back much faster than expected and in no time at all you'll be wondering...."is anybody going to cut back this overgrowth"? Thanks for the photos. This was San Clemente Singletracks one week after the fire.

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Yeah the trails will come back fairly soon. I'm worried about erosion here if we get some winter storms as this was a pretty big drainage for the south side of Yucaipa ridge as well as potato canyon in oak Glen. And as Ross said, there are a lot of oaks as well as a few conifers that will never come back.