The Fire Thread

[Derkderkall]

And we're down to 3% containment...

 

[Old&InTheWay]

 

[sir crashalot]

Eldorado Fire has spread into the nw portion of San Gorgonio Wilderness, but looks like it skirted Angelous oaks. Burning up to the ridge top and toward the lake fire scar, where there’s little to burn. Hope they keep it south of the 38.

 

[Old&InTheWay]

Very Scary.

 

[rossage]

3% containment...

I'd really like to know exactly what this means.
How can you contain just 3%? Isn't that basically zero containment?
If any Firemen or arsonists know, explain it, please.

And now for something completely different...

Inciweb has the best maps and info for wildfires.
This is a screenshot of the western edge of the Bobcat fire.
Still south of the 2 (orange line), tried to cross it near Mt Sally. At 3% containment, it looks like anything between the 2 and the 39 is vulnerable.
Mt Wilson survived the night but the fire is still close.
Chantry Flats burned.

 

[scottay]

Make a circle around the fire, 3% is abutted to the river and isnt burning and you can keep it from burning. Thats the 3% containment I do believe.
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[SnakeCharmer]

Less containment than before means that the fire jumped a specific area of containment line(s) and it is now burning out of control in that area.

 

[scottay]

Or the circle got bigger and now your area is a lesser percentage.

 

[hill^billy]

To many fires have been set, not enough resources, pray for rain!

 

[rossage]

Make a circle around the fire, 3% is abutted to the river and isnt burning and you can keep it from burning. Thats the 3% containment I do believe.
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Less containment than before means that the fire jumped a specific area of containment line(s) and it is now burning out of control in that area.

Firemen? Or.....?

 

[scottay]

Plays with matches?
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[Derkderkall]

Containment is just what percentage of the fires edge they feel they can keep from expanding...

So I assume they estimate the total perimeter of the fire and go by which areas it has been completely fortified.

Since the fire expanded, the ratio of the edge that has been controlled had dropped

 

[rossage]

Containment is just what percentage of the fires edge they feel they can keep from expanding...

So I assume they estimate the total perimeter of the fire and go by which areas it has been completely fortified.

Since the fire expanded, the ratio of the edge that has been controlled had dropped

I have a good grasp of what containment is, I'm guessing the 3% is just that, a guess. Better than saying 0%?

 

[Derkderkall]

I have a good grasp of what containment is, I'm guessing the 3% is just that, a guess. Better than saying 0%?

I'm thinking they have a small edge somewhere, that they know for sure is secure? Even if it is next to nothing...

I'm guessing this is what....a 25 ? 50 mile perimeter?
So they have 1/2 miles that are secure?

 

[UPSed]

I have several firemen on my route but they all seem to be busy right now. I'll ask next time I see one of them.

 

[rossage]

I have several firemen on my route but they all seem to be busy right now. I'll ask next time I see one of them.

By then, maybe, we will have 7.2% containment!

 

[UPSed]

By then, maybe, we will have 7.2% containment!

I'm just as confused as everyone else. Sometimes you see 56% containment and it's all but out.

 

[SnakeCharmer]

I have a good grasp of what containment is, I'm guessing the 3% is just that, a guess. Better than saying 0%?

It's at least 300% percent better than 0%!!!

 

[Derkderkall]

Great updates if you have instagram

@lowelifesrcc

 

[BonsaiNut]

It's when the fire gets more than 100% contained that Sh!t gets real.

 

[Cyclotourist]

Eldorado Fire has spread into the nw portion of San Gorgonio Wilderness, but looks like it skirted Angelous oaks. Burning up to the ridge top and toward the lake fire scar, where there’s little to burn. Hope they keep it south of the 38.
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Doesn't look good for Jenks Lake or Poop Out Hill.

 

[sir crashalot]

Doesn't look good for Jenks Lake or Poop Out Hill.

At least Jenks lake loop is partially protected by the lake fire scar. I’ll bet there’s a contingency line west of JLL between the lake fire scar and the 38

 

[Cyclotourist]

At least Jenks lake loop is partially protected by the lake fire scar. I’ll bet there’s a contingency line west of JLL between the lake fire scar and the 38

I'm not going to presume anything at this fire... Both this one and the bobcat are definitely doing their own thing. I don't think it's very populated, but lot of weekend cabins and youth camps in that area.

 

[Derkderkall]

Damn

 

[sir crashalot]

Damn

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Damn

 

[mountaingirl sara]

This is all just too much

 

[rossage]

If it crossed the 2 past Shortcut Saddle, then Charlton is just across the canyon. Starting to run into the edges of the Station fire burn scar. Still plenty of fuel out there

 

[furball]

LAist reports 500' from Mt Wilson https://laist.com/latest/post/20200915/bobcat-fire-day10 so sad

 

[mtbMike]

LAist reports 500' from Mt Wilson https://laist.com/latest/post/20200915/bobcat-fire-day10 so sad

That info came out at 12:31 on the Angeles_NF Twitter page, LA'ist reported it several hours later. I'm interested in what's actually occurred since 12:30. Hopefully they fought it off. At least there's a large parking lot that won't burn.

 

[fos'l]

"Talked" (email) to my cousin in the hoity toity town of North Salem, NY (about an hour or so from the city) and they can smell smoke from the fire back there. The AQI is 67. Seems incredible to me, but saw the same thing on the news last night.