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This caught my eye. Chevy Bolt gets a $6000 MSRP CUT for 2023. I think the idea is to get folks used to paying sticker for cars, and this is the price the car needed to be.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-get-dramatic-price-cuts/

I’ve said it before, but if you’re looking to save on commuting costs and to give the finger to Vladimir, OPEC, and the California Board of Equalization, I can’t recommend the Bolt more highly. Not a flawless machine: I’ve had to pay for one repair-the steering pinion lost a tooth and had to be replaced. And of course there was that battery recall. But Chevy did right by the owners and gave us a 10% bigger battery and a fresh 100k warranty.

While road tripping more than 250 miles a day isn’t exactly its best use, I’ve driven it to Tucson , SLO, and Mammoth. I got lots of approving interest when fast charging for free at the rest areas on the way to Mammoth. And it’s awesome on big commutes. With sticky tires it would hold its own on an autocross track.
 
tick said:
This caught my eye. Chevy Bolt gets a $6000 MSRP CUT for 2023. I think the idea is to get folks used to paying sticker for cars, and this is the price the car needed to be.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-get-dramatic-price-cuts/

I’ve said it before, but if you’re looking to save on commuting costs and to give the finger to Vladimir, OPEC, and the California Board of Equalization, I can’t recommend the Bolt more highly. Not a flawless machine: I’ve had to pay for one repair-the steering pinion lost a tooth and had to be replaced. And of course there was that battery recall. But Chevy did right by the owners and gave us a 10% bigger battery and a fresh 100k warranty.

While road tripping more than 250 miles a day isn’t exactly its best use, I’ve driven it to Tucson , SLO, and Mammoth. I got lots of approving interest when fast charging for free at the rest areas on the way to Mammoth. And it’s awesome on big commutes. With sticky tires it would hold its own on an autocross track.
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The Volt Bolt was our shuttle rig from La Verne to SouthFork Camp on last Sunday’s SART ride.
 
tick said:
This caught my eye. Chevy Bolt gets a $6000 MSRP CUT for 2023. I think the idea is to get folks used to paying sticker for cars, and this is the price the car needed to be.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-get-dramatic-price-cuts/

I’ve said it before, but if you’re looking to save on commuting costs and to give the finger to Vladimir, OPEC, and the California Board of Equalization, I can’t recommend the Bolt more highly. Not a flawless machine: I’ve had to pay for one repair-the steering pinion lost a tooth and had to be replaced. And of course there was that battery recall. But Chevy did right by the owners and gave us a 10% bigger battery and a fresh 100k warranty.

While road tripping more than 250 miles a day isn’t exactly its best use, I’ve driven it to Tucson , SLO, and Mammoth. I got lots of approving interest when fast charging for free at the rest areas on the way to Mammoth. And it’s awesome on big commutes. With sticky tires it would hold its own on an autocross track.
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I've read they are the closest to a hot hatch on the BEV market. I like them, but wish they weren't so busy looking.
 
tick said:
This caught my eye. Chevy Bolt gets a $6000 MSRP CUT for 2023. I think the idea is to get folks used to paying sticker for cars, and this is the price the car needed to be.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/2023-chevy-bolt-ev-euv-get-dramatic-price-cuts/

I’ve said it before, but if you’re looking to save on commuting costs and to give the finger to Vladimir, OPEC, and the California Board of Equalization, I can’t recommend the Bolt more highly. Not a flawless machine: I’ve had to pay for one repair-the steering pinion lost a tooth and had to be replaced. And of course there was that battery recall. But Chevy did right by the owners and gave us a 10% bigger battery and a fresh 100k warranty.

While road tripping more than 250 miles a day isn’t exactly its best use, I’ve driven it to Tucson , SLO, and Mammoth. I got lots of approving interest when fast charging for free at the rest areas on the way to Mammoth. And it’s awesome on big commutes. With sticky tires it would hold its own on an autocross track.
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I sold a Q5e to a lady with a Bolt, and I had to drive the Bolt back to her house for her. In the 10ish minutes that I drove it I found it to be surprisingly pleasant to drive around city streets. Felt like it would be an easy and oddly satisfying car to own. Reading the specs/features on the new one, it seems like a lot of EV for the money.
 
Jason Camissa loves the eGolf.

I know I *should* have gone EV, but I don't commute in a car so I figured it made more sense for me to get what I want as a long term toy before I can't get it anymore. I won't be able to avoid an EV in the future, so I might as well enjoy what I want now.

And my Jeep arrival date has changed tp "TBD" :(
 
'93 RX-7
'96 Mustang GT
'98 Civic HX
'98 Accord EX
'00 Acura TL
'01 RAV4 L
'05 Titan SE
'11 Titan SV
'13 FR-S
'15 Tundra SR5
'20 C-HR XLE
'21 Titan SV
These are the vehicles I've purchased over the last 30 years. We're averaging around 5k miles per year on the current Titan so it's safe to say that it "should" last us through retirement. I'm leasing the C-HR for $169 per month. Depending on the residual after my lease is up, I may end up keeping the C-HR. Looking back, I spent a lot of money on new vehicles. Do I regret any of those purchases? Nope. I've enjoyed every vehicle I've ever had and other than the scheduled maintenance, I've never had to pay for any repairs.
If you're in a position to buy the vehicle you want, then why not? We do it with MTBs.
 
Ooooh I want to play!
71 Chevy Monte Carlo (used) - auto - high school and college
71 Volvo Wagon (very used) - manual - college
78 Ford Fiesta (very used) - manual - college and transition
87 Nissan King Cab "hardbody" (4 cyl) New - manual - First real job
91 Nissan King Cab (6 cyl w/ AC) New - manual
91 Nissan Pathfinder (used) - manual
96 Nissan Pathfinder (New) - manual (the last one)
00 Nissan X-Terra (New)
04 Porsche Cayenne S (lightly used)
06 Nissan X Terra (new)
04 Audi Allroad (used)
10 Audi Q5 (new)
18 Audi Q5 (used)

Best of the bunch? The Q5s

Any questions?

Oh and wife's vehicles since married:

Mazda 626 (new)
BMW 318i (new)
Acura Legend 4 door (used)
Acura Vigor (used)
Subaru Outback wagon (new)
Volkswagen Cabrio (new)
Audi A4 (new)
Volvo S6 (Used)
Volvo XC 70 (new)
Nissan Titan 4 door (New)
Toyota Sienna AWD (new)
Volkswagen Atlas AWD (new)

Best cars of the bunch - Outback, XC 70, Sienna
 
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Car lists are fun.

87 VW Scirocco 16v
1990 Eagle Talon TSI AWD
1995 Honda Accord EX (had this car for 9 years - it was a dark time)
2006 Scion TC (first new car - my last manual transmission)
2010 Subaru Outback 2.5
2015 Subaru Outback 3.6
2016 Audi SQ5
2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad
2019 Audi e-tron
2021 Audi SQ5
2021 Audi S4

Wife's since we met:
She came with a Tomato red 2nd gen Prius (replete with sloppily applied pseudo hippie bumper stickers).
2011 Nissan Murano
2016 Audi Q5
2018 Subaru Outback 3.6
2019 Audi SQ5
2021 Audi Q5
 
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Oh, this is fun! My wife and I have been dating since HS and got married young, so our car lists are sorta' intertwined. Lets see...

----------Proto-Me-----
'63 VW Beetle MT (converted to a Baja)
'73 MGB MT (technically my dad's)
'78 Camaro 305/AT (was bitchin')
----------College--------
'65 Mustang 6cyl/MT - ended up w/ GF/spouse
'66 Mustang 289/AT - ended up w/ GF/spouse
'88 Hyundai Excel/MT - (Commuter; stupidly underpowered, but zero problems)
----------Marriage--------
'90 Celica/MT - spouse (Her first "real" car)
'91 325i cab/AT - spouse (Her favorite car ever)
'73 2002/MT (damn fun car, no A/C though)
'90 325iX/MT (unicorn)
---------- Breeding---------
'94 525i wagon/AT - spouse (Was crashed in to)
'91 325i/MT - BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I crashed it like a dumbass)
'98 318i/MT (Sold to buy the kid-hauler MPV)
----------More Breeding-----
2004 Mazda MPV (do I even need to say AT?)
2006 Mazda3 hatch MT - currently used by Middle Child
2007 GL450 - Family vehicle/now semi-retired for trips
--------Now They Are Driving OMG-------
2006 330i/MT - Perfect car, hopefully I can keep going for another 10 years!!!
2008 328xi/AT wagon - Firstborn totaled it the second week we had it
2007 328i/AT wagon - Replacement for the above. Now Firstborn's
2011 528i/AT - Spouse's car, but major problems with the ECU. First bad car we ever had. Cut bait?


Plans: Figure out what's up with the 5er. If it can't be fixed reasonably, sell it and the GL and get a 2010 X5 (Unicorn year: last year of NA I6 engine, first year updated iDrive). Or just ditch the 5er, keep the GL, and get an A5 Sportback or a 428i Gran Coupe (hatch/wagon a big need for her work). Maaaaaaaaybe a CPO i4 in a couple of years. BEV would be perfect for my wife, but even with expensive gas, hard to justify as we buy used cars (we can buy four used for the price of a single new one). It'll be German, probably from Munich (notice a pattern above?). We have one too many vehicles right now, and duties need to be split between commuting/Costco runs, and West Coast driving vacations. Two vehicles cover that really well, but hard to justify.
 
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Let's see......my list is quite a bit shorter.....

'89 Ford Escort(first car)
'89 Nissan Hardbody 4x4(bought in '91)(4" Suspension/3" Body Lift....33" BFG Mud Terrains....4 Cylinder....manual)
'96 Ford Thunderbird
'98 Jeep Cherokee(2nd transmission died @ 167k miles)
'04 Nissan Titan(sold with 182k miles)
'15 Ram 1500 Big Horn.....has been passed on to Suz
'22 Ram 1500 Rebel

Suz....since we got together.
'94 Jeep Wrangler
'98 Jeep Cherokee
'00 Ford Mustang
'04 Jeep Wrangler
'07 Nissan X-Terra
'14 VW Jetta
'15 VW Jetta Wagon(totaled after 3 months)
'15 VW Passat(VW buyback after Diesel scandal)
'16 Mazda CX-5
'15 Ram 1500 Big Horn
 
SnakeCharmer said:
Good lord, you guus have owned a lot of cars. Thats a big chunk of change locked up in purchases. It must be noce to have money. I tend to drive my vehicles into the ground so Ive averaged a new one every ten years or so.
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My Accord and both Subarus both ended up with well over 100k miles on them (Accord close to 200K), but after that 2015 Subaru I've leased everything with the exception of the '21 SQ5 that got totalled. With high sales tax, and the way car purchases are taxed in CA I can't really see myself ever actually purchasing a car again. Makes even more sense for me now with employee lease deals.
 
buggravy said:
My Accord and both Subarus both ended up with well over 100k miles on them (Accord close to 200K), but after that 2015 Subaru I've leased everything with the exception of the '21 SQ5 that got totalled. With high sales tax, and the way car purchases are taxed in CA I can't really see myself ever actually purchasing a car again. Makes even more sense for me now with employee lease deals.
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My lease is up in another year. I plan on retiring a year after that. I may just end up doing another short-term lease. We won't need two vehicles once I retire.
 
1959 VW Bug, got when I was 13 years old and sold it with the divorce 25 or so years later. I still try not to think about it. Parents paid $700 for it.
1972 VW Bug I bought for the then fiance for $1000. Can't remember when I sold it for a couple years later. Cool memories.
1986 Chrysler LeBaron for $1200. Military paid me $1100 to drive it to Alaska from Virginia on my transfer, then $1150 to California on my next transfer. Paid for itself twice! Towed away and impounded by military housing for being "abandoned". Assholes knew it wasn't abandoned as they had just told me to move it to a different parking spot the night before, which I did.
1990 Ford Ranger for $1000. Bought while I was in Alaska from a shipmate, sold to another shipmate less than a year later when I transferred.
1988 Bronco II for $1500. Beat the Sh!t out of it, wheeled it hard for having no budget. Sold to a friend for the same price, bought it back for the same price, then sold it back again for the same price. That was the last I heard of it. Wish I still had that :Roflmao
1989 Bronco II for $3000. For the wife, because she wanted her own. Sold a couple years later for unremembered sum.
1995 Isuzu Trooper from a friend, can't remember the price and sold it soon after. Didn't need the vehicle and it got HORRIBLE mileage.
Early 1980's Ford boat that I don't remember for something like $300. Sold soon after to someone on base by the ex wife while I was out to sea. That one has some question marks around it.
2000 Buell X1 motorcycle for $8000 I think. POS, constantly broke, swore off Harleys after that. Traded it for a dirt bike that was listed for $1500.
2000? Buell Blast for the ex for like $2500. Okay bike, except the oil consumption, and then Buell even started to Sh!t on them o_O
1995 KTM RXC 400, traded from the Buell. Sold to someone at another base for about a grand a couple years later.
2004 Honda CBR 1000RR. $12k and first new anything. Repoed 2 years later when I found out my ex stopped paying any bills when I was out to sea (see also the PT).
2004 Honda Shadow for the ex, also new, also repoed.
2004 PT Loser for something like $20,000...USED! Ex wife bought it while I was out to sea without asking me and was also paying something like 13% interest!
1984 Honda Nighthawk 700SC for $300. Did an engine rebuild over the weekend and ran great for a couple years, sold for $600. Wish I still had that.
2006 new Yamaha VStar for the ex. Pretty good bike, sold when she didn't want to ride anymore. But got a lot of miles.
Some year Yamaha Virago 535 for cheap from my mom, it was her only motorcycle and decided it wasn't for her. I put some mileage on it commuting to college. Pretty good bike actually. Kinda rotted away when it got parked outside and I gave it away years later.
2002 Ford F150 for $10k. Ex wife still has it 10 years later. I wanted it in the divorce and would surely still be driving it now.
2012 Ford Fiesta for $18k. Only new car, for the ex to commute in. I kept in the divorce, totalled last year.
1995 Ford Ambulance.
2003 GSXR 1000 for $3500

2022 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon...soon?

I think that is it. Not counting track bikes. So I have only ever bought myself one new vehicle, which was the motorcycle in 2004. And this Jeep will be my first new car. The two new motorcycles and new car were all for the ex wife.
 
SnakeCharmer said:
Good lord, you guus have owned a lot of cars. Thats a big chunk of change locked up in purchases. It must be noce to have money. I tend to drive my vehicles into the ground so Ive averaged a new one every ten years or so.
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Average mileage when I buy is 100,000. Usually keep till at least 150,000. Right now don't have a car with less than 120k, and my 330i has 220k as of Monday. Trick is to buy well maintained fancy cars from OC. They take them to Sterling or Fletcher and maintain them well. The one car we bought from someone in the IE went sideways!
 
1980 VW Rabbit 4 speed manual
1983 VW Rabbit GTI 5 speed manual
1991 Isuzu Stylus XS 5 speed manual
1991 Geo Storm GSi 5 speed manual
2001 Acura Integra GS-R 5 speed manual
2003 Acura RSX Type S 6 speed manual
2003 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII 6 speed manual
2005 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII 6 speed manual
2007 Honda S2000 6 speed manual
2012 Nissan 370Z 6 speed manual

My 370Z only has 66K miles and got a new engine at something like 22K so I don't really need a new car, but I have been thinking about it. I get about 18 - 20 MPG in normal driving and that is not working with current gas prices.
 
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Sidewalk said:
Honestly, I think it was the best I had. The GSXR is truly an amazing machine, and the 1000RR was amazing looking (and I loved riding it). But the Nighthawk was the best motorcycle.
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They were great bikes. All I did was change the oil every 3k miles and and synced the carbs once or twice. The hydraulic valve lash adjusters and shaft drive made it the perfect commuter. I bought it new and put well over 80k miles on it. Second gear was feeling a little wonky when I sold it but the guy who bought it didn't seem to care.
 
Started driving mid 90's, got married in '05 and kids started turning up '15. Interestingly had the most cars at any one time pre-kids. Pretty much all of them were manuals (stick shift) except for the Exploder and one or two Triumphs.

(>2000) New Zealand cars:
  • 1978 Triumph mk2 sedan (first car shared with my bro)
  • 1974 Triumph mk2 estate
  • 1975 Triumph mk2 sedan
(2000-2010) Australia cars:
  • 1988 Toyota Corolla hatchback
  • 1996 Honda Civic hatchback (did over 200,000 in this car, was faultless)
  • 2001 Mitsubishi Mirage hatch
  • 2004 Mazda 3 sedan (my first and last personal brand new car purchase)
  • 1976 Triumph mk2 sedan
  • 2006-2010 I was on the Ford employee executive lease plan so had a new car every 6 months or so, various Focus, Fiesta and Falcons, probably my favorite to get was an XR6 flatbed ute, straight 6 and 6MT. Had 3 or 4 of them, great vehicles.
(2010 - 2019) UK cars:
  • When we moved to London didn't have any car for nearly 8 years, its actually very inconvenient to own one in that city!
  • 1972 Triumph GT6 mk3 (I've bought this to the US)
  • 2010 Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
(2019 -) US cars:
  • 2009 Ford Ranger
  • 2013 Ford Explorer
 
Age: 60
1972 Plymouth Fury
1969 VW BaJa Bug
1975 Dodge Colt
1974 Dodge Colt
1969 GTO Ram Air IV
1973 Chevy Vega: Winter driver in Colorado while owning the goat.
1972 Datsun 240Z
1984 Toyota truck 4x4
1971 Plymouth CUDA
1983 Toyota truck 4x4
1989 Toyota 4-Runner 4x4
2004 Chevy Silverado
2006 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 Sport

Vehicles I co-owned with me ladies:
2003 Toyota Camry
2002 Nissan
2004 Chevy Tahoe
2001 Jaguar S
2002 Volvo t60
2006 Lexus lx330
2004 BMW 320
 
Obsidian said:
1980 VW Rabbit 4 speed manual
1983 VW Rabbit GTI 5 speed manual
1991 Isuzu Stylus XS 5 speed manual
1991 Geo Storm GSi 5 speed manual
2001 Acura Integra GS-R 5 speed manual
2003 Acura RSX Type S 6 speed manual
2003 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII 6 speed manual
2005 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII 6 speed manual
2007 Honda S2000 6 speed manual
2012 Nissan 370Z 6 speed manual

My 370Z only has 66K miles and got a new engine at something like 22K so I don't really need a new car, but I have been thinking about it. I get about 18 - 20 MPG in normal driving and that is not working with current gas prices.
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Never let me negatively criticize your choice in cars!
 
Ok, here we go. Some real winners and losers here. Some years may be off a bit and this isn't the order of ownership - some new - many used - (s) for stick):

1969 Mercedes 220s
1976 Mercury Zephyr
1980 Nissan 200SX (s)
1982 Ford Bronco
1983 Mazda RX7 (s)
1985 Ford Mustang GT (s)
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo (s)
1988 Porsche 928 S4
1989 Ford Taurus SHO (s)
199X Ford Bronco
1994 Accord
1995 BMW M3 (s)
1997 Nissan Maxima SE
1999 Audi A6 2.7T
1999 BMW X5 4.4
2001 BMW M3 (s)
2002 Acura MDX
2003 BMW 330i
2004 Nissan Titan
2004 Itasca Meridian
2004 Nissan Quest
2005 Porsche 911 (s)
2006 BMW 330i
2007 BMW X5
2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser
2010 Honda Odyssey
2010 Mazda 3
2010 Honda Ridgeline
2011 Ford Edge Sport
2011 Toyota RAV4
2011 Cayenne S
2012 Honda Odyssey
2012 Honda Ridgeline
2015 BMW i3
2015 Porsche Macan Turbo
2016 Tesla Model S
2017 Mazda CX5
2017 Ford Raptor
2018 Ford Raptor
2019 Ford Raptor
2020 Ford Transit AWD
2021 Ford Raptor
2022 Ford Raptor
2022 Tesla Model Y

I've missed a few and forget adding the motorcycles!
 
Some of the cars on these lists I would have LOVED to have (especially at the time, excepting the 1972 Datsun when I was 2) ...

UPSed's
93 RX-7s

buggravy's
87 VW Scirocco 16v
1990 Eagle Talon TSI AWD

DIRTJUNKIE'S
1972 Datsun 240Z

AKAKTM's
1983 Mazda RX7 (s)
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo (s)
2005 Porsche 911 (s)
 
AKAKTM said:
Ok, here we go. Some real winners and losers here. Some years may be off a bit and this isn't the order of ownership - some new - many used - (s) for stick):

1969 Mercedes 220s
1976 Mercury Zephyr
1980 Nissan 200SX (s)
1982 Ford Bronco
1983 Mazda RX7 (s)
1985 Ford Mustang GT (s)
1987 Toyota Supra Turbo (s)
1988 Porsche 928 S4
1989 Ford Taurus SHO (s)
199X Ford Bronco
1994 Accord
1995 BMW M3 (s)
1997 Nissan Maxima SE
1999 Audi A6 2.7T
1999 BMW X5 4.4
2001 BMW M3 (s)
2002 Acura MDX
2003 BMW 330i
2004 Nissan Titan
2004 Itasca Meridian
2004 Nissan Quest
2005 Porsche 911 (s)
2006 BMW 330i
2007 BMW X5
2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser
2010 Honda Odyssey
2010 Mazda 3
2010 Honda Ridgeline
2011 Ford Edge Sport
2011 Toyota RAV4
2011 Cayenne S
2012 Honda Odyssey
2012 Honda Ridgeline
2015 BMW i3
2015 Porsche Macan Turbo
2016 Tesla Model S
2017 Mazda CX5
2017 Ford Raptor
2018 Ford Raptor
2019 Ford Raptor
2020 Ford Transit AWD
2021 Ford Raptor
2022 Ford Raptor
2022 Tesla Model Y

I've missed a few and forget adding the motorcycles!
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I bet your list of MTB's is even longer...:Roflmao:cool::thumbsup:
 
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