Pivot Cycles: Off my list

I have no problems with eBikes. I don't personally want one, but don't mind if others ride them.

Strava doesn't make assholes, and eBikes don't make assholes. There are plenty of assholes that don't use Strava or ride eBikes.

I have more power and endurance then most people WITH an eBike (endurance certainly, power is close).

There is a group I see at Sycamore on occasion now on eBikes. They have not caused us any problems different from any other sort of bike. The one guy I saw was struggling on a technical downhill section, just like he would on a push bike. I saw most, if not all of them pushing their bikes up a hill soon after, a hill JJ and I ride up without problem.
 
I hate to say it but that's a good looking bike. I'm guessing it's going to be tough convincing newer generations that batteries aren't the way to go..too many little girls in our neighborhood flying back and forth on their scooters, and parents driving hybrids. Not to mention at least two of my trail work friends arguing their value for getting to more remote work sites. Hope they'll at least reserve space for a human-powered exhibit in the natural history museum.
 
hill^billy said:
@ Mikie, better break out the fire extinguisher quick, before this turns into the Station .
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fos'l said:
It's easy to provide crap for an older individual on an e-bike. Be interesting to see what occurs when a young, fit stud shows up on one. I'm predicting total silence.
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Wind speeds are at 25 mph at the moment, and embers are jumping ahead at an alarming rate!
 
kioti said:
I hate to say it but that's a good looking bike. I'm guessing it's going to be tough convincing newer generations that batteries aren't the way to go..too many little girls in our neighborhood flying back and forth on their scooters, and parents driving hybrids. Not to mention at least two of my trail work friends arguing their value for getting to more remote work sites. Hope they'll at least reserve space for a human-powered exhibit in the natural history museum.
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Oh boy! Love your honesty. And thanks again for your trail work.
Life is good gentleman be accepting. Mountain biking isn't going anywhere. It will change like it always has. There may not be room for every type person but they are gonna be there like it or not. Ride on!
 
LLPoolJ said:
Besides pissing you off how did it affect you negatively?
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It does piss me off when they are on trails for which they are not authorized... which is the vast majority of single tracks in the county parks and the Cleveland National Forest. I understand that they are coming, much like a flood, and will probably be universally legal at some point. At that point in time, I'll suck it up. But the current crop of users are flouting the current rules. Would we stand for that if it were fellow (pedal) mountain bikers poaching hiker only trails?
 
LLPoolJ said:
Burn baby burn.
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Sugarlaof Mountain in Riverside.
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To be quite honest, as a lover of everything two wheels, I would love to have a Pivot Shuttle. Ultimate bike for multiple Suicide runs. That being said my biggest concern is people taking them where they're not legal and where they don't belong. I took my WR450 to the desert and to the track occasionally. Never once contemplated writing on single track I knew I was supposed to. And to be honest the opportunity presented itself quite often. As the saying goes "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
 
LLPoolJ said:
He is 300 miles away, but losing fitnesd
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eScalpel?


Faust29 said:
It does piss me off when they are on trails for which they are not authorized...
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There are a lot of places I know of that are very popular for mountain biking, that are illegal to ride on at all. Most riding in the home of mountain biking, San Fran bay area, are riding illegal trails.


mtnbikej said:
Hold on....let me get my e-running shoes.
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Sh!t

Danimal said:
Hhmmm
Think they had the same thought going from horses to horse drawn carriages to horseless carriages?
And just wait until they run out of gas. My horse can eat grass, they'll be pushing. Hahaha
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Gives new meaning to "gas, grass, or ass".


DangerDirtyD said:
Sugarlaof Mountain in Riverside.
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Just noticed the smoke a few minutes ago before coming inside for a break.
 
fos'l said:
It's easy to provide crap for an older individual on an e-bike. Be interesting to see what occurs when a young, fit stud shows up on one. I'm predicting total silence.
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Meaning I won't say anything because he is some strapping stud and I fear him kicking my azz?
Far from it. The older guy is going to get the thumbs up from me, the young fit guy is going to get Mikie Watson Sh!t talk as a flippin' whoosy. I'm really sick and tired of this subject.
 
With the introduction of the 50 tooth pie plate, I am not sure that an e-bike is even necessary anymore. Pair this pie plate with a 28 tooth chain ring and one would be able to climb anything, I mean ANYTHING!

I hate to sound prejudice but lets be logical here. A truly physically impaired/limited person is not going to be out there on the trails we see "healthy" (lazy) e-bikers rolling on.
 
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