Montana & Idaho

Mikie said:
Just got to a cabin in Sula Montana. No cell service.
Heading to Kalispell tomorrow after we explore the Bitterroot Valley.
You guys have been so good so far!
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A quick Google search shows that there are several shops nearby that rent e-bikes! You should be all set. If your cell signal is limited, I can reserve a Turbo Levo and have it delivered for you...

They'll need a credit card when it gets there. :thumbsup:
 
Faust29 said:
A quick Google search shows that there are several shops nearby that rent e-bikes! You should be all set. If your cell signal is limited, I can reserve a Turbo Levo and have it delivered for you...

They'll need a credit card when it gets there. :thumbsup:
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Sat down to breakfast in Sula the next morning. Sitting on our table was this!
I mean... what the hail?!?!?!?
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Mikie said:
Sat down to breakfast in Sula the next morning. Sitting on our table was this!
I mean... what the hail?!?!?!?
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They need a way to lug their 4 pointer out of the brush Mikie. Where is the guy's gun in that picture?
By the way Mikie, Rick O. checked out northern Montana as a possible retirement spot. You guys will have to compare notes.
One more comment on that general area. Waterton Lakes National Park, in Alberta, is just across the border from Glacier NP. I have spent a bunch of time in Waterton where they have some trails where mountain bikes are allowed. Novel idea for a national park. Most of the trails are old roads turned into singletrack but there is one legit trail that is fun. Unfortunately the area was devastated by a fire a couple of years ago.
Good hunting (not that kind) to you guys and have fun.
 
Faust29 said:
I hinted at this awhile back, but nobody bit... The Secretary of the Interior made this announcement back in August, but it really didn't get much press. The dam has broken.
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I'm no fan on ebikes in general as it pertains to singletrack but once you get out of this state, there's plenty of vehicles out there on BLM and NFS land. My FIL lives adjacent to the NF outside Durango and we can ride quads and dirt bikes directly into the NF from his driveway. Come hunting season, those hunters are also over the place in their SxS's as well. Due the lack of population density, I still very rarely run into any other them on my rides...but I still wear orange in October :D
 
Faust29 said:
The Secretary of the Interior made this announcement back in August, but it really didn't get much press. The dam has broken.
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It really hasn't though. That announcement only made e-bikes legal where normal bikes are currently allowed in places like National Parks and National Wildlife refuges. Since bikes are allowed in very few places in those areas - typically paved roads and maybe a handful of real trails nationwide, it really doesn't mean much. Although it could set a precedent for other Federal lands. Forest Service and BLM still consider e-bikes to be motorized and don't allow them on non-motorized trails.

This is sort of like the law that was passed in California a few years ago that "allowed" bikes on "all" trails where bicycles were allowed - except it didn't, because regulations for parks and designated lands would still prohibit them on trails in many cases. But of course news outlets mis-reports it and e-bikers either make wrong assumptions or use this an excuse to ride where ever they want.
 
evdog said:
It really hasn't though. That announcement only made e-bikes legal where normal bikes are currently allowed in places like National Parks and National Wildlife refuges. Since bikes are allowed in very few places in those areas - typically paved roads and maybe a handful of real trails nationwide, it really doesn't mean much. Although it could set a precedent for other Federal lands. Forest Service and BLM still consider e-bikes to be motorized and don't allow them on non-motorized trails.

This is sort of like the law that was passed in California a few years ago that "allowed" bikes on "all" trails where bicycles were allowed - except it didn't, because regulations for parks and designated lands would still prohibit them on trails in many cases. But of course news outlets mis-reports it and e-bikers either make wrong assumptions or use this an excuse to ride where ever they want.
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I subscribe more to the "slippery slope" philosophy... With the wide proliferation of e-bikes already, and the economics involved, I'd bet anything that other federal lands will follow. It's only a matter of time...
 
evdog said:
It really hasn't though. That announcement only made e-bikes legal where normal bikes are currently allowed in places like National Parks and National Wildlife refuges. Since bikes are allowed in very few places in those areas - typically paved roads and maybe a handful of real trails nationwide, it really doesn't mean much. Although it could set a precedent for other Federal lands. Forest Service and BLM still consider e-bikes to be motorized and don't allow them on non-motorized trails.
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I disagree. The dam may not even have a crack as far as National PARKS go, but it's a full blown breech for BLM land. Over the Edge in Hurricane is new renting ebikes since they will now be allowed on the local trails there.
 
evdog said:
It really hasn't though. That announcement only made e-bikes legal where normal bikes are currently allowed in places like National Parks and National Wildlife refuges. Since bikes are allowed in very few places in those areas - typically paved roads and maybe a handful of real trails nationwide, it really doesn't mean much. Although it could set a precedent for other Federal lands. Forest Service and BLM still consider e-bikes to be motorized and don't allow them on non-motorized trails.

This is sort of like the law that was passed in California a few years ago that "allowed" bikes on "all" trails where bicycles were allowed - except it didn't, because regulations for parks and designated lands would still prohibit them on trails in many cases. But of course news outlets mis-reports it and e-bikers either make wrong assumptions or use this an excuse to ride where ever they want.
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you guys need to learn stealth, all of those places are open if you do not ride with a posse
 
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