Little Diddy About Mikie and Bikie

Mikie said:
I will easily say I am open minded to Flats.
I simply struggle with the concept they would be efficient on tech climbing. This is based exclusively on my perceived need to pull up on the backside of the pedal stroke.

Skiers clip in, so do snowboarders. Be interesting to know the data on collarbones broken on clipped and on flats. I would feel vulnerable on flats like nothing is holding me to the bike. I know this is just me as Fadi rides flats and kicks my azz.

Jeff out here rides flats and does a good job in the technical.

I do want to remind you all that pedals had nothing to do with this fumble. I was out of my pedals and just tangled up in my bike. The cable may have saved my life but destroyed my ankle. I tried to remove my foot like a jar lid. Ughhhh!:facepalm:

I ride with Fadi and stop and watch him do all the crazy jumps, then I fall over on a simple step up climb and change my next 2 months hopefully with no complications. :rolleyes:
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WOW @Mikie, I just saw your triple fracture post! :eek::eek::eek:

I rode clipless for at least a decade before I switched to flats, and never looked back. You'd be surprised how well you can grip a flat pedal with a sticky soled shoe. Your feet learn to "grab on".

I for one, AM TRYING TO GET YOU TO SWITCH, partially.... :cool:

Perhaps keep clipless on the hardtail and use it for the XC stuff there. But you've also got some nasty chunky gnar there on other trails. Maybe flats on the Hightower for that level of riding.
 
Mikie said:
The Saga continues…
You Hooligans who suggested I go see a Doc and get X-Rays were right.
Yesterday I realized the pain was localizing to my lower Fibula and I swear I could feel a spur of fractured bone I could push on. Well? I could and it is. In fact I have 3 fractures.
I got copies of the X-Rays but they put them on a disc.

Not good.
In fact I have surgery scheduled for this Tuesday. Looks like a @mtnbikej move with plate and screws. My Surgeon once again is a serious mountain biker and said this is a “have-to” surgery and it will have lasting consequences. :(

Just in time for retirement!

But don’t fret too much. I’m gonna kick this accidents ass and get back on that trail and kick that sections ass!

Got a temp splint until Tuesday.
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@Mikie - that totally blows. You are becoming bionic of course with every additional plate, screw and new joint. I may be catching you soon. I have a small plate and screws in my hand, a much larger plate and screws in my collarbone and will most likely have a shiny new hip installed before summer (maybe winter break). Like others have said - you will bounce back yet again.

As for flat pedals - I was trying to commit to flats when I got my Megatower and Revel because I wanted to clean up my riding skills. I rode flats most of the time at bike parks and got used to jumping with them and not coming off the pedals. However - when trying them up hill, I found myself rolling the pedal in chunk. That sucked, so i went back to clips. I had good pedals and shoes, so that wasn't the problem. I also found that you actually get more rotational lateral float clipped in then when stuck to the pins on flat pedals - easier on your knees. In other words, your heel can move left and right as you pedal as needed, whereas with flats and good shoes, you be stuck!

Granted - your crash had nothing to do with pedals, but your recovery might.
 
herzalot said:
@Mikie - that totally blows. You are becoming bionic of course with every additional plate, screw and new joint. I may be catching you soon. I have a small plate and screws in my hand, a much larger plate and screws in my collarbone and will most likely have a shiny new hip installed before summer (maybe winter break). Like others have said - you will bounce back yet again.

As for flat pedals - I was trying to commit to flats when I got my Megatower and Revel because I wanted to clean up my riding skills. I rode flats most of the time at bike parks and got used to jumping with them and not coming off the pedals. However - when trying them up hill, I found myself rolling the pedal in chunk. That sucked, so i went back to clips. I had good pedals and shoes, so that wasn't the problem. I also found that you actually get more rotational lateral float clipped in then when stuck to the pins on flat pedals - easier on your knees. In other words, your heel can move left and right as you pedal as needed, whereas with flats and good shoes, you be stuck!

Granted - your crash had nothing to do with pedals, but your recovery might.
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Thanks for this.
You’re nailing my thoughts exactly. We are having an Indian Summer as they call it, out here and it’s hard to be down for the count when the weather is still nice. All that to say, do the hip when the the weather is less likely to be nice. I get depressed when everyone else is riding and I can’t. :sneaky:
I didn’t considered pedal-ology related to AFTER the surgery…:unsure:
I rode Speedplay pedals to get that heal float for my knees prior to the knee replacement however I kept breaking the “Frogs” and Shimano proved to have enough float both before and after the aftermarket knees.

This accident has mentally impacted my riding future. I’m 65 in February, on an “in-between” insurance waiting to get on Medicare, this trail fumble (I have a hard time calling it a crash) has me thinking about the intensity of my mountain biking. The trails out here are much more technical on average.

Or… I may just be in shock and will go back to what I always do and bomb trails in mental oblivion. Time will tell. ;)
 
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Mikie said:
You and I brothah, we are in the Titanium Club.
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You ti guys realize what they do when you have a skull fracture, right?

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This is old " I never ride with flats as I find it dangerous. I loved the part about being cleated, my shins ached just thinking about it. I can unclip without any issues. When I have have had to I will ride flats, but in the end I will always start jumping stuff and eventually slam my balls into the seat ending in pain". That never happens when I am clipped in.
 
Finally got some images to share.
Front View: The Fib aint happy and I actually figured out it was broken before we got X-Rays because I could push on that fracture and feel it flex.
Opposite on the inside of the Tibia at the very bottom you can see the tip is snapped off. Apparently, there is an important tendon that attaches to that... of course there is.
Update: Gained access to the official diagnosis and results:
FINDINGS: Acute oblique fracture distal fibula at the tibiofibular syndesmosis with 4.5 mm lateral displacement. Small medial malleolar tip fracture fragment with minimal displacement. Nondisplaced small posterior malleolar fracture. No dislocation
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This next pic I'm not sure what is broken but they pointed to it. I'm sure at this point I'm just in shock and hearing but not listening. :facepalm:
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Mikie said:
Finally got some images to share.
Front View: The Fib aint happy and I actually figured out it was broken before we got X-Rays because I could push on that fracture and feel it flex.
Opposite on the inside of the Tibia at the very bottom you can see the tip is snapped off. Apparently, there is an important tendon that attaches to that... of course there is.
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This next pic I'm not sure what is broken but they pointed to it. I'm sure at this point I'm just in shock and hearing but not listening. :facepalm:
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That's not supposed to happen! :gag:
 
I was thinking about how you crashed or fell over and that stair step type of stuff would get me too- especially if it was in wet conditions. All I can say is I hope you get past this bump in the road quickly. ( no pun intended :speechless: ) . Meanwhile, you can read a book or get on your ATV and do laps around the neighborhood or if it has been long enough rewatch the Expanse. :rolleyes:
 
Stkx66 said:
I was thinking about how you crashed or fell over and that stair step type of stuff would get me too- especially if it was in wet conditions. All I can say is I hope you get past this bump in the road quickly. ( no pun intended :speechless: ) . Meanwhile, you can read a book or get on your ATV and do laps around the neighborhood or if it has been long enough rewatch the Expanse. :rolleyes:
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The Expanse! You know me well! ;)
 
Mikie said:
Finally got some images to share.
Front View: The Fib aint happy and I actually figured out it was broken before we got X-Rays because I could push on that fracture and feel it flex.
Opposite on the inside of the Tibia at the very bottom you can see the tip is snapped off. Apparently, there is an important tendon that attaches to that... of course there is.
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This next pic I'm not sure what is broken but they pointed to it. I'm sure at this point I'm just in shock and hearing but not listening. :facepalm:
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The Fibula is an easy fix....plates and a few screws. I can feel the screws through my skin, but after almost 14 years, it hasn't been an issue.

I had a similar but bigger break on the Tibia. Again, no issues with the hardware. I do not feel the screw on the bottom of the Tibia. I have smacked it on the the crank arm hundreds of times.....tender yes, issue...not really. No issues with the tendons or soft tissue. My complications/life altering issue has more to do with mine being dislocated and riding out on it for so many miles, that I damaged the cartlidge at the bottom of the bone. It only affects me when I do hikes on off camber trails, but I have recently discovered that sturdy hiking boots limit that issue.

Never went to flat pedals. As soon as I was cleared to ride, straight back to clipping in. Yes, it took a while to get comfortable, but I had a harder mental block on the panic foot down than actually unclipping. You'll be fine

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mtnbikej said:
The Fibula is an easy fix....plates and a few screws. I can feel the screws through my skin, but after almost 14 years, it hasn't been an issue.

I had a similar but bigger break on the Tibia. Again, no issues with the hardware. I do not feel the screw on the bottom of the Tibia. I have smacked it on the the crank arm hundreds of times.....tender yes, issue...not really. No issues with the tendons or soft tissue. My complications/life altering issue has more to do with mine being dislocated and riding out on it for so many miles, that I damaged the cartlidge at the bottom of the bone. It only affects me when I do hikes on off camber trails, but I have recently discovered that sturdy hiking boots limit that issue.

Never went to flat pedals. As soon as I was cleared to ride, straight back to clipping in. Yes, it took a while to get comfortable, but I had a harder mental block on the panic foot down than actually unclipping. You'll be fine

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It doesn't go "TING!!!" when you make direct contact with something else that is metal? ;)
 
Anyone over 40 not lifting reasonably heavy things on a regular basis is just someone just waiting for inevitble bone breaks. The science is undisputed.

Not saying you will never break a bone .,.. but, lift heavy things.

Follow me for more conspiracy theories that always end up being true.
 
Obsidian said:
Anyone over 40 not lifting reasonably heavy things on a regular basis is just someone just waiting for inevitble bone breaks. The science is undisputed.

Not saying you will never break a bone .,.. but, lift heavy things.

Follow me for more conspiracy theories that always end up being true.
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How heavy is heavy, and what about global warming?
 
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