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If you don’t come unclipped from your Shimano pedals then you’re not crashing hard enough...:Roflmao:confused::rolleyes: Like a couple others I prefer mine cranked down a bit. Coming unclipped unexpectedly usually ends bad but somehow when I need it my feet always unclip automatically.
 
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herzalot said:
Clipped in since 1990, Mr. Know It All! Plus I was a ski racer, so I know bindings. Pre-releasing out of a ski binding can be more dangerous than not coming out.

I weigh 210 lbs and ride very differently from you. I don't fear coming out of my pedals - I HAVE come out of a pedal in the air and at high speeds on rocky descents. I switched to HT pedals because they can be set much tighter than SPDs, but they have to be serviced every 10 rides, so I went back to SPDs.

Once again, you talk to me like I'm a rookie and you are the experienced veteran. Not sure why you went down this road. I am guessing just to bait, needle and provoke - as is often your MO with my posts. I stand by my original pithy comment - riding in sandals with tight SPDs is a bad idea.
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Speaking only for myself - 'cause, can't speak for anyone else - riding in sandals just doesn't seem right. I prefer my toes in one, concise, intimate group. Not spread all over creation. :gag:
 
hill^billy said:
My tension is set to a very low setting, is almost a flat pedal, trained my brain for quite feet and it works for me. :)
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Cool that you have such quiet feet - but a loose SPD feels NOTHING like a good flat pedal. To me, a loose SPD feels like standing on ice. Move very gingerly - and for God's sake don't rotate your hips or use some body English, or throw your bike a little sideways in the air! And if you do come out, there is next to ZERO traction for your shoe. I am impressed that you all can ride with such finesse. I guess I'm just an oaf.

One question - why do you want them that loose? Do you have troubles unclipping if they are tighter?
 
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UPSed said:
I guess this is what Ellsworth has been up to....

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If I was Revel I'd be pissed about that head tube badge. I know I mentioned this in another thread, and I'm sorry if I'm in violation of the IMTB code of ethics by saying this, but aesthetically I think that thing looks rad. If I lived in a place where scooters were used regularly for transport, I'd totally rock that thing. Come at me, bro.
 
buggravy said:
If I was Revel I'd be pissed about that head tube badge. I know I mentioned this in another thread, and I'm sorry if I'm in violation of the IMTB code of ethics by saying this, but aesthetically I think that thing looks rad. If I lived in a place where scooters were used regularly for transport, I'd totally rock that thing. Come at me, bro.
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I would only come at you with my (second hand) inside knowledge of Tony Ellsworth and his practices. I would buy 5 Specializeds before giving Tony a dime.
 
herzalot said:
Clipped in since 1992, Mr. Know It All! Plus I was a ski racer, so I know bindings. Pre-releasing out of a ski binding can be more dangerous than not coming out.

I weigh 210 lbs and ride very differently from you. I don't fear coming out of my pedals - I HAVE come out of a pedal in the air and at high speeds on rocky descents. I switched to HT pedals because they can be set much tighter than SPDs, but they have to be serviced every 10 rides, so I went back to SPDs.

Once again, you talk to me like I'm a rookie and you are the experienced veteran. Not sure why you went down this road. I am guessing just to bait, needle and provoke - as is often your MO with my posts. I stand by my original pithy comment - riding in sandals with tight SPDs is a bad idea.
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Don't feed the troll, Chris.

Instead, have a DH race. (Heal up first, though.) An honest time trial will do. Settle it like men.


PS: Smellsworthy rips off Revel logo, makes perfect sense.
 
mtnbikej said:
When you get to 25 years.....let me know. :whistling:


And mine are super tight as well. :Barefoot:
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IMO cleat retention is relevant to rider weight. The heavier the rider, the tighter your cleats. I have my tension backed all the way out, as loose as can be. Tried tightening down all the way. I could get in no problem. But, I couldn’t get out. I had to unlace the shoe and unclip by hand.
 
herzalot said:
Cool that you have such quiet feet - but a loose SPD feels NOTHING like a good flat pedal. To me, a loose SPD feels like standing on ice. Move very gingerly - and for God's sake don't rotate your hips or use some body English, or throw your bike a little sideways in the air! And if you do come out, there is next to ZERO traction for your shoe. I am impressed that you all can ride with such finesse. I guess I'm just an oaf.

One question - why do you want them that loose? Do you have troubles unclipping if they are tighter?
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Ahh herz, after your golf post I was thinking how much I miss the game and how I need to make time for it, was also thinking that you obviously must be an all around good athlete with all the sports you have been into like surfing , skiing and whatever else? Come on, far from an oaf, and at 6’ what 5”?
As for why so loose? Unclipping without impediment is important to me, I also mostly keep my wheels on the ground, I guess I’m really aware of my feet, split seconds count, but seldom do I come out of my clips, if I do my foot can still find the pedal , but it does happen, was jumping a couple of months ago and came out and was lucky I did not break my leg! And my thought about coming out of a binding on a ski is far worse than coming out of a clip on a pedal, when you are out you are out on a ski. Came out of my binding at Mt. High back in the day, got a free gurney ride down the mountain in a pool of blood from that same binding hitting me in the head! But that is why I have run these same pedals for about 3 bikes, all battered and broken in, but still just enough pedal to hang on to in an emergency.
But these posts have made me realize I need new ones before they just fall off!
Was not trying to pick a fight or say how awesome I actually am. :)

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I run my pedals loose. Maybe two three clicks from the bottom. I like the float I perceive from that. I ran Frogs for 20 years with zero tension and only gave up on them because I kept braking the cleats.
I think everyone’s preference is unique, just like everything else about cycling equipment. I know on several occasions now I was slow to adapt on new or other concepts and equipment.

I was hard set on Rock and Roll Gold for chain lube. I razzed and teased and defended it. I just switched to Dumond. Probably the best move related to chain lube because my imtb buds highly recommended it.

My preferences are not necessarily someone else’s and that’s another layer of what makes this sport so awesome! Otherwise we would run out of stuff to talk about on a MTB Forum.

Bike on!
 
Redman said:
IMO cleat retention is relevant to rider weight. The heavier the rider, the tighter your cleats. I have my tension backed all the way out, as loose as can be. Tried tightening down all the way. I could get in no problem. But, I couldn’t get out. I had to unlace the shoe and unclip by hand.
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After I broke my ankle, I loosened up the retention a little bit thinking it'd be safer and easier with my lack of ROM and weak muscles......however after a few months, I found myself making them tighter and tighter. I'm 1-2 clicks from full lock. Only time I have issues is when I ride in the mud.
 
mtnbikej said:
After I broke my ankle, I loosened up the retention a little bit thinking it'd be safer and easier with my lack of ROM and weak muscles......however after a few months, I found myself making them tighter and tighter. I'm 1-2 clicks from full lock. Only time I have issues is when I ride in the mud.
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Pedals only need to be loose enough to allow the pilot to disengage at whatever that personal comfort level is, right? :thumbsup:
 
herzalot said:
Clipped in since 1992, Mr. Know It All! Plus I was a ski racer, so I know bindings. Pre-releasing out of a ski binding can be more dangerous than not coming out.

I weigh 210 lbs and ride very differently from you. I don't fear coming out of my pedals - I HAVE come out of a pedal in the air and at high speeds on rocky descents. I switched to HT pedals because they can be set much tighter than SPDs, but they have to be serviced every 10 rides, so I went back to SPDs.

Once again, you talk to me like I'm a rookie and you are the experienced veteran. Not sure why you went down this road. I am guessing just to bait, needle and provoke - as is often your MO with my posts. I stand by my original pithy comment - riding in sandals with tight SPDs is a bad idea.
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Sorry, that was not my intent.
 
I do not know my tension, it has been decades since I set them up. I do make them a little tighter if I get a pre-release. I think the last one was on Hummingbird last year. But I do lubricate them once the release becomes sticky. They seem to get sticky with that ocean bottom clay. Not too much but after climbing the moon dust on the Baleen wall or the cement dust on the back side of Happy camp they will stick. I cannot ride without my SPD's, it is too dangerous. . I have a saying, do not fix what is not broken, you introduce new failure modes that were not expected. I am a troubleshooter, you would be amazed at how many failures are caused by the simplest things.
Happy trails
 
I need a vacation by coming back to work... o_O
I took Thursday off and probably have logged 60 hours working on the remodel of our house for market over the weekend. Cathy and I feel like slave labor to ourselves.
What do you call going back to your job, to catch a physical break?
 
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