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UPSed said:
I'll give you a hint. It has a motor and starts with an e.
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Stawp it!!!!

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UPSed said:
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Ahhhh Sh!t. Well there goes another one. And unlike the photo of the E-Bike with Santa Cruz stickers on it I posted last summer, this one really is a Santa Cruz. :mad:
Will the last company not making an e-bike please bring the flag? (over here to the luddite camp)

A few left:
Yeti
Guerilla Gravity
Knolly
Banshee
Ibis
Transition

I'm sure there's a few more boutique names not making a moped. Yet. :(
 
UPSed said:
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(1) I ride a fair amount. I can't knock anyone who rides farther, more often, and climbs more than I do :)
(2) I hope I don't see you on my non-motorized trails, because if so I will be forced to make a snarky comment :) I don't play favorites with snarkiness :)

Interestingly, as I prepare to move to North Carolina, I am talking a lot with a large bike club in the Charlotte area. Their biking primarily consists of pump-style tracks, beautifully maintained, through parks and woods. You have to drive a bit to get into the mountains for some elevation change.

Even with flat trails, they are having trouble with e-bikes. Worse yet, they even had someone show up for their local short-course race riding an e-bike. He hid in the rear until the start... and then crept up through the field. Not sure if he did it as a joke, or if he really thought he might get away with it, but someone had to report him to the race marshals to get him DQed.
 
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Danimal said:
Yeah you need it, your rides are way to short without any elevation gain. The ebike should help.
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BonsaiNut said:
(1) I ride a fair amount. I can't knock anyone who rides farther, more often, and climbs more than I do :)
(2) I hope I don't see you on my non-motorized trails, because if so I will be forced to make a snarky comment :) I don't play favorites with snarkiness :)
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Not sure why either of you would think I want an ebike? Just posting news of the SC ebike as several here assumed they wouldn't make one. :)
 
herzalot said:
Ahhhh Sh!t. Well there goes another one. And unlike the photo of the E-Bike with Santa Cruz stickers on it I posted last summer, this one really is a Santa Cruz. :mad:
Will the last company not making an e-bike please bring the flag? (over here to the luddite camp)

A few left:
Yeti
Guerilla Gravity
Knolly
Banshee
Ibis
Transition

I'm sure there's a few more boutique names not making a moped. Yet. :(
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Disappointing if Santa Cruz is actually going to make on. On the bright side it is making it easier to choose a new bike since I won't buy from a company who makes e-bikes.
 
herzalot said:
Ahhhh Sh!t. Well there goes another one. And unlike the photo of the E-Bike with Santa Cruz stickers on it I posted last summer, this one really is a Santa Cruz. :mad:
Will the last company not making an e-bike please bring the flag? (over here to the luddite camp)

A few left:
Yeti
Guerilla Gravity
Knolly
Banshee
Ibis
Transition

I'm sure there's a few more boutique names not making a moped. Yet. :(
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Man that list keeps getting smaller!:bang: Bummer about SC. Saw someone "pedaling" a proto around laguna a year ago

evdog said:
On the bright side it is making it easier to choose a new bike since I won't buy from a company who makes e-bikes.
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I have a bad feeling in a few years we wont even have that choice.
Proud Banshee owner
(so far. Although keith said somewhere on mtbr they wont go E.)

Begs the question, IF e is the future and selling an electric model is the only way to stay competitive, would we rather see one of the smaller companies go E or go bankrupt?
 
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evdog said:
Disappointing if Santa Cruz is actually going to make on. On the bright side it is making it easier to choose a new bike since I won't buy from a company who makes e-bikes.
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I don't get this argument... If boycott is a strategy, then everything that says "Shimano" needs to come off our bikes. They make the motors... Maxxis tires? They now have e-specific offerings. Where’s the blowback for them?

In economic terms, the bike manufacturers are probably the least culpable. Market forces above and below determine their course for survival.

Edit: The same rumor mill that predicted the SC ebike is also predicting one from Ibis and yeti... I'd bet my MBA they're right...
 
Faust29 said:
I don't get this argument... If boycott is a strategy, then everything that says "Shimano" needs to come off our bikes. They make the motors... Maxxis tires? They now have e-specific offerings. Where’s the blowback for them?

In economic terms, the bike manufacturers are probably the least culpable. Market forces above and below determine their course for survival.

Edit: The same rumor mill that predicted the SC ebike is also predicting one from Ibis and yeti... I'd bet my MBA they're right...
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Any bike manufacturer who does not offer e-bikes will soon be one with the stegosaurus. Unless they can survive in their niche, which may be possible for a few of them. For a while.

The reason is as simple as my cousin. He's 10 years older than I am (meaning he's pushing 70) and he's retired, and like a lot of folks he's in St George, UT. Which has an amazing number of bike path miles. He and his wife both have e-bikes, and they're down to one car. This is the reality of the vast majority of the population; they don't need to cater to us.
 
Faust29 said:
I don't get this argument... If boycott is a strategy, then everything that says "Shimano" needs to come off our bikes. They make the motors... Maxxis tires? They now have e-specific offerings. Where’s the blowback for them?
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Yeah... but bike companies didn't start making e-bikes just because maxxis came out with e-bike tires. The tire isn't the part with the motor in in.
 
evdog said:
Yeah... but bike companies didn't start making e-bikes just because maxxis came out with e-bike tires. The tire isn't the part with the motor in in.
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No... But my point was that you're making a conscious decision to avoid SC (and soon Yeti and Ibis), but giving a pass to Shimano, Bosch, Maxxis and a boatload of others who have capitalized on the e-bike surge for far longer. The holdouts are being driven there by market forces. The early birds jumped in with both feet.

I won't boycott... There would be nothing left to ride. :unsure:
 
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