@Cornholio - Looking at J's numbers will make you or almost anyone feel extremely wimpy, weak and disturbed. Again yesterday as I am completely wrung out after my 4th or 5th climb, I think about J's typical numbers and ask myself, could I do this same route two or three more times? The answer is always - "Oh, hell no!" I can barely unclip and lift my bike onto my car and my afternoon is spent sleeping, drinking water, eating and generally recovering. I cannot comprehend being able to do over 6000' every ride, and more often than not 8000' plus. Oh - and on a singlespeed. Between J's ridiculous stamina, and Burt's unique ability to ride anything on decades-old equipment, there are a few "freaks" of nature on this forum with almost cartoon character super-power abilities. If you tell these "I-know-a-guy-who..." stories to other riders, they won't believe you.
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