The Automobile Thread

Ooooh - I missed this post. I am SHOCKED - shocked I tell you. (pun intended)

Congrats! Jealous again... Can't wait to see that bad baby with a proper rack on the top for surfboards, snowboards and bikes. Don't be like the other SoCal posers who won't put a rack on their "shiny new SUV..."

Oh and you can't put a roof rack on the Tesla "SUV" because of the fancy doors. So where are the yuppies putting their SUPppies?

Thanks! Unfortunately I imagine the e-Tron isn't going to haul much more than people, but we shall see. I have a feeling that it will end up more as my wife's car, and I will take over hers. I kind of feel conspicuous again when she doesn't have the nicest car in the house, plus her commute and daily driving (20 miles each way to and from work, plus some kid hauling) lends itself perfectly to an EV. The Tacoma will probably continue to do most of the grunt work.
 
Unlike @buggravy, I didn't see any need to soup up the car to make it faster.

I definitely went pretty crazy with mine. It was a lot of fun, but at the time I was also laying the groundwork for a side hustle selling aftermarket parts for Euro cars, and a display car showing some skin in the game was a prerequisite for that. Unfortunately the business side of it didn't pan out as hoped, but the whole process was a fun, if expensive and at times stressful learning experience.
 
I will entertain the idea of one day owning an e-car when they can get 500+ miles or more out of a tank of electricity. That's the range of mileage we can expect from modern super efficient gasoline vehicles.
I definitely get that. We're fortunate(?) that we have 3 cars by virtue of the fact that I drive over 30K miles per year between work and personal driving, and my wife drives 15K+, so it just makes sense. At this stage of the game I would not want to have to rely on an EV for road trips. Obviously it can be done, but it certainly adds a level of planning, and variable, that I wouldn't want to have to contend with every time we hit the road.
 
OK, back to petroleum fueled vehicle talk...

After much contemplating, I decided to buy a new vehicle. I did not want a car payment and I had hoped to keep my truck running by fixing things as they failed but with an impending engine failure and a tranny that was starting to slip, the cost to replace those items would have reached much of the cost of a new vehicle. My truck had 195,550 miles on it and it was the best vehicle I ever owned where reliability is concerned. Never once did anything fail, never once did it strand me. But that made it a ticking time bomb and that was the deciding factor in biting the bullet, so I let her go. I did much research online. Studied reviews, MPG ratings, brand/model incentives, and public feedback. I had decided to move away from trucks. I had decided to go with an SUV. It would serve my needs almost to the extent of what my truck would serve but with a few added bonuses. I was looking at the Nissan Rogue, the Subaru Forester, and the Honda CR-V. I eliminated the Rogue from the list quickly. It was up to the last two. I saw a lot of each of them around town but I saw smoking tailpipes from one of the two often enough to cancel that one out. Furthermore, a good friend owned a late model version of one of the vehicles that I was interested in so I was able to get up close and personal with it. That helped me make my final decision as well.

I put an entire day aside this past weekend to go haggling. And haggling, I did. Started at one dealership with the intent to fall back on another if they were not willing to play my way. The first dealership just wouldn't go near where I wanted to be. We went back and forth. I kept sending my my salesman back into the manger's office. Finally, I heard the manager yell out, "what does he expect me to do?!". That's when the manager himself came out and said to me that his dealership would not go that low and he acknowledged that others might. That was my one-way ticket out the door. Of course, they called back a few mins later with another $500 off their offer but it was still too far away from where I wanted to be so I continued on to the next dealership.

The next dealership was on my way home and it was much better. It had a warmer, even family like atmosphere there between the staff. My salesman was a total character. Super chatty, even when not talking about the transaction of the vehicle. It did not take much haggling to get them close to where I wanted to be so I took their price. A good deal, not an unbelievable deal, but a good deal and I was fried already from haggling with the last place. Added bonuses were the fact that they gave my twice what I was willing to accept for my truck in trade and the fact that Honda was offering 2.9 financing for top tier buyers. Then it was time to move into the finance office. More haggling, lol. I wasn't going to do the extended warranty until I found out that the turbo charger is only covered in the comprehensive warranty (3/36). So we haggled for a while for a 7/100 extended warranty. We were laughing at each other and with each other through it, acknowledging that it was a good battle. In the end, I got the price down to where I was willing to accept it. So I signed my life away. My new vehicle had 11 miles on it, 4 of which I put on it for a test drive, when I left for home.

Now, the bonuses for this SUV (vs my truck) are:

*MUCH improved MPGs. I am :Roflmao as I drive uphill and watch the MPGs climb on the instrument panel readout. It's already higher than it ever was with my truck on it's best day and it will improve as the
new engine breaks in.
*87 octane fuel. I was using 89 octane fuel in my truck because it ran more smoothly with it. The fuel cost savings and improved fuel economy will pay for a good chunk of the car payments. :)
*The ability to haul long/tall items. My truck had a bed cover on it, so I was limited in height when hauling. :cool:

I have already ordered a set of all weather, custom fit floor mats and I need to order a tow hitch. Until then, my bike goes inside.
 
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Yeah, that's interesting. I spend maybe a thousand a year on electricity. Even given the pool, how do you SAVE $5K a year????
I could probably see it. We spend probably $3k a year on power, and we have no pool. Summer months in the San Fernando valley where A/C is bumping (set to 76 during the day & 70 upstairs but not downstairs at night) were easily paying $350 per month.
 
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Saving 5k on solar? My yearly house hold electric bill is probably in the $500-600 range using AC to be comfy too. And I don't have solar. Highest month this year was maybe $90.

If you are only using 200kWhr per month of electricity, solar doesn't really make any sense. The "average" usage amount for an SDG&E customer (including people living in apartments) is 445kWhr/month. Because the rates scale exponentially, you can sometimes use twice as much as a neighbor, but get 4x the bill (or more). Some of my neighbors (who live in 6k square foot homes with pools) regularly get $800 per month bills.
 
OK, back to petroleum fueled vehicle talk...

After much contemplating, I decided to buy a new vehicle. I did not want a car payment and I had hoped to keep my truck running by fixing things as they failed but with an impending engine failure and a tranny that was starting to slip, the cost to replace those items would have reached much of the cost of a new vehicle. My truck had 195,550 miles on it and it was the best vehicle I ever owned where reliability is concerned. Never once did anything fail, never once did it strand me. But that made it a ticking time bomb and that was the deciding factor in biting the bullet, so I let her go. I did much research online. Studied reviews, MPG ratings, brand/model incentives, and public feedback. I had decided to move away from trucks. I had decided to go with an SUV. It would serve my needs almost to the extent of what my truck would serve but with a few added bonuses. I was looking at the Nissan Rogue, the Subaru Forester, and the Honda CR-V. I eliminated the Rogue from the list quickly. It was up to the last two. I saw a lot of each of them around town but I saw smoking tailpipes from one of the two often enough to cancel that one out. Furthermore, a good friend owned a late model version of one of the vehicles that I was interested in so I was able to get up close and personal with it. That helped me make my final decision as well.

I put an entire day aside this past weekend to go haggling. And haggling, I did. Started at one dealership with the intent to fall back on another if they were not willing to play my way. The first dealership just wouldn't go near where I wanted to be. We went back and forth. I kept sending my my salesman back into the manger's office. Finally, I heard the manager yell out, "what does he expect me to do?!". That's when the manager himself came out and said to me that his dealership would not go that low and he acknowledged that others might. That was my one-way ticket out the door. Of course, they called back a few mins later with another $500 off their offer but it was still too far away from where I wanted to be so I continued on to the next dealership.

The next dealership was on my way home and it was much better. It had a warmer, even family like atmosphere there between the staff. My salesman was a total character. Super chatty, even when not talking about the transaction of the vehicle. It did not take much haggling to get them close to where I wanted to be so I took their price. A good deal, not an unbelievable deal, but a good deal and I was fried already from haggling with the last place. Added bonuses were the fact that they gave my twice what I was willing to accept for my truck in trade and the fact that Honda was offering 2.9 financing for top tier buyers. Then it was time to move into the finance office. More haggling, lol. I wasn't going to do the extended warranty until I found out that the turbo charger is only covered in the comprehensive warranty (3/36). So we haggled for a while for a 7/100 extended warranty. We were laughing at each other and with each other through it, acknowledging that it was a good battle. In the end, I got the price down to where I was willing to accept it. So I signed my life away. My new vehicle had 11 miles on it, 4 of which I put on it for a test drive, when I left for home.

Now, the bonuses for this SUV (vs my truck) are:

*MUCH improved MPGs. I am :Roflmao as I drive uphill and watch the MPGs climb on the instrument panel readout. It's already higher than it ever was with my truck on it's best day and it will improve as the
new engine breaks in.
*87 octane fuel. I was using 89 octane fuel in my truck because it ran more smoothly with it. The fuel cost savings and improved fuel economy will pay for a good chunk of the car payments. :)
*The ability to haul long/tall items. My truck had a bed cover on it, so I was limited in height when hauling. :cool:

I have already ordered a set of all weather, custom fit floor mats and I need to order a tow hitch. Until then, my bike goes inside.
I read all that and I still can’t figure out what you bought. Must be too early in the morning for me :sleep:
 
I read/skimmed it twice! I believe it's a CR-V....
I was originally going to buy a newer used one. I found a few Honda Certified Pre-owned CR-Vs with the specific color combo I was looking for within a reasonable distance away. But I put a lot of miles on a vehicle every year and buying a used one was like taking a year's use out of ownership so I decided to go with a new one.
 
OK, back to petroleum fueled vehicle talk...

After much contemplating, I decided to buy a new vehicle. I did not want a car payment and I had hoped to keep my truck running by fixing things as they failed but with an impending engine failure and a tranny that was starting to slip, the cost to replace those items would have reached much of the cost of a new vehicle. My truck had 195,550 miles on it and it was the best vehicle I ever owned where reliability is concerned. Never once did anything fail, never once did it strand me. But that made it a ticking time bomb and that was the deciding factor in biting the bullet, so I let her go. I did much research online. Studied reviews, MPG ratings, brand/model incentives, and public feedback. I had decided to move away from trucks. I had decided to go with an SUV. It would serve my needs almost to the extent of what my truck would serve but with a few added bonuses. I was looking at the Nissan Rogue, the Subaru Forester, and the Honda CR-V. I eliminated the Rogue from the list quickly. It was up to the last two. I saw a lot of each of them around town but I saw smoking tailpipes from one of the two often enough to cancel that one out. Furthermore, a good friend owned a late model version of one of the vehicles that I was interested in so I was able to get up close and personal with it. That helped me make my final decision as well.

I put an entire day aside this past weekend to go haggling. And haggling, I did. Started at one dealership with the intent to fall back on another if they were not willing to play my way. The first dealership just wouldn't go near where I wanted to be. We went back and forth. I kept sending my my salesman back into the manger's office. Finally, I heard the manager yell out, "what does he expect me to do?!". That's when the manager himself came out and said to me that his dealership would not go that low and he acknowledged that others might. That was my one-way ticket out the door. Of course, they called back a few mins later with another $500 off their offer but it was still too far away from where I wanted to be so I continued on to the next dealership.

The next dealership was on my way home and it was much better. It had a warmer, even family like atmosphere there between the staff. My salesman was a total character. Super chatty, even when not talking about the transaction of the vehicle. It did not take much haggling to get them close to where I wanted to be so I took their price. A good deal, not an unbelievable deal, but a good deal and I was fried already from haggling with the last place. Added bonuses were the fact that they gave my twice what I was willing to accept for my truck in trade and the fact that Honda was offering 2.9 financing for top tier buyers. Then it was time to move into the finance office. More haggling, lol. I wasn't going to do the extended warranty until I found out that the turbo charger is only covered in the comprehensive warranty (3/36). So we haggled for a while for a 7/100 extended warranty. We were laughing at each other and with each other through it, acknowledging that it was a good battle. In the end, I got the price down to where I was willing to accept it. So I signed my life away. My new vehicle had 11 miles on it, 4 of which I put on it for a test drive, when I left for home.

Now, the bonuses for this SUV (vs my truck) are:

*MUCH improved MPGs. I am :Roflmao as I drive uphill and watch the MPGs climb on the instrument panel readout. It's already higher than it ever was with my truck on it's best day and it will improve as the
new engine breaks in.
*87 octane fuel. I was using 89 octane fuel in my truck because it ran more smoothly with it. The fuel cost savings and improved fuel economy will pay for a good chunk of the car payments. :)
*The ability to haul long/tall items. My truck had a bed cover on it, so I was limited in height when hauling. :cool:

I have already ordered a set of all weather, custom fit floor mats and I need to order a tow hitch. Until then, my bike goes inside.
That's why I use Costco. They do the haggling. Congrats on the new purchase!
 
I read all that and I still can’t figure out what you bought. Must be too early in the morning for me :sleep:
The CR-V.
I have one and it's a really nice vehicle.
Of course mine is a company car, ( they said go pick one and well buy it) but I would buy one of them myself. Good power, good mileage, bells and whistles etc. Couple hiccups when I got it but alls good now.
Good choice @SnakeCharmer !

Edit: on the costco thing, I used that to get the price then sent it off to the boss. A good deal. The dealer thought I was pulling a fast one when I told them to call the CFO in Vermont and they'd pay for it. LOL that was an interesting conversation.
 
Kinda silly I know, and the post was intended to be funny, but I really do clench up a little when a Prius is near me...I’ve had a couple close calls with them on my bike.
I'm really not trying to pile on here, and my wife used to own a Prius as well (complete with a crooked Greenpeace bumper sticker), but this ties in to my earlier post. There is some annual survey/study/ranking of worst drivers by cars they own. I don't remember the source, but it's something that lies in between official and tongue in cheek. Not sure exactly what the criteria were, but is more about driving behaviors than actual crashes, etc. The top spots had long been held by expensive brands, and I know that Jaguar was at, or near the top, but in recent years that honor has been going to the Prius. Present company not withstanding I do see Prius owners do an inordinate amount of stupid or inconsiderate things behind the wheel.
 
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Kinda silly I know, and the post was intended to be funny, but I really do clench up a little when a Prius is near me...I’ve had a couple close calls with them on my bike.
By far the most aggressive drivers on the road.
 
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Will definitely report back on the e-Tron. Re: Q5s, it's a great platform. Sounds like you've researched the 3.2, but my unsolicited advice would be see if you can find a '13 with the 3.0 that fits your budget. '13 was the facelift for that generation, so you get some additional features and nice upgrades. Most notably, the 3.0 is an absolutely stellar motor, and from what I understand is Audi's most reliable motor ever. The only difference in the 3.0 from the Q5 to the Sq5 is a more conservative ECU tune. For $800-$900 you can get a Stage 1 tune from most of the major players that would have you at 400 crank horsepower, and the 3.0 will happily and reliably make that kind of power for 100K+ miles. One guy on another forum I frequent is at 160K on his tuned Q. If you really want to go crazy it's not that hard to get to 500 hp with more aggressive dual pulley tunes, but even for the cost of used 3.0 and a stage 1 tune you'd have one hell of a sleeper.
I have a 2009 Q5 s-line 3.2 l 6 cylinder. S-line is only a trim package, not a performance bump. I have 151,000 miles on it. It has been a great car, with a few expensive repairs (water pump, fuel pump). Well worth it. Best driving, best fitting car I've ever owned. Great in snow and challenging conditions. The facelift given the Q5 s (whenever it was - 2013?) was definitely necessary. Unlike @buggravy, I didn't see any need to soup up the car to make it faster. I like big horsepower too, but I never felt my car needed to be quicker or faster. I may have had a different opinion if I lived at altitude. It is noticeably slower off the line in Denver - as is every car.

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The Q5 is really appealing to the spouse... I would prefer an A4 Avant, but she likes and kinda needs the height. She hauls a ton of crap around for work, so the cargo capacity is a must. Sorta looking at X3 and XC70 as well. A5 sportbacks are pretty rad, but they are still too new and need to depreciate a bit more to get into our price range.

This Q5 in Redondo hits all the boxes, but is a couple grand more than similar options for sale.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/d/redondo-beach-audi-q5-sport/6999819818.html
or here if it is deleted/sold: http://www.craigslistadsaver.com/view.php?name=CraigslistAdSaver3330

This conversation is all academic at the moment... I don't think she's serious about it right now.
 
I was originally going to buy a newer used one. I found a few Honda Certified Pre-owned CR-Vs with the specific color combo I was looking for within a reasonable distance away. But I put a lot of miles on a vehicle every year and buying a used one was like taking a year's use out of ownership so I decided to go with a new one.

What dealer did you end up going to? It's good to hear who treated you good. No matter what price you agree on up front, the real salesperson is the F&I guy in the small back room.
 
I'm really not trying to pile on here, and my wife used to own a Prius as well (complete with a crooked Greenpeace bumper sticker), but this ties in to my earlier post. There is some annual survey/study/ranking of worst drivers by cars they own. I don't remember the source, but it's something that lies in between official and tongue in cheek. Not sure exactly what the criteria were, but is more about driving behaviors than actual crashes, etc. The top spots had long been held by expensive brands, and I know that Jaguar was at, or near the top, but in recent years that honor has been going to the Prius. Present company not withstanding I do see Prius owners do an inordinate amount of stupid or inconsiderate things behind the wheel.

I've been over the Grapevine quite a few times in recent years. I've yet to climb it without coming upon a Prius in the left lane. Dying slowly. :facepalm:
 
Ooooh - I missed this post. I am SHOCKED - shocked I tell you. (pun intended)

Congrats! Jealous again... Can't wait to see that bad baby with a proper rack on the top for surfboards, snowboards and bikes. Don't be like the other SoCal posers who won't put a rack on their "shiny new SUV..."

Oh and you can't put a roof rack on the Tesla "SUV" because of the fancy doors. So where are the yuppies putting their SUPppies?
Roof racks seriously hit range. Rivian put a lot of design brainpower into racks that are easily removable, but since you can’t buy one for at least another year, the hitch rack is the way to go for EV road trippin’
I may have had a different opinion if I lived at altitude. It is noticeably slower off the line in Denver - as is every car.

EVs are faster in Denver—less drag!
 
Dude,RAV 4 should've be on that list. We got a 2015 last year ,lovin it!!!

Sounds like you got a good one!

My daughter bought a new Rav 4 in 2018, and she was so stoked to get the car she really wanted! However.... It's had 5 wheel alignments in the 12 months she's owned it. They last a few weeks and go out again. It's a known defect on some of the Rav's. Other than that she likes the car but can't wait for the day to unload it as it's a danger to her and others especially at speed on the freeway.
Unfortunately the dealer is not to responsive so I got the pleasure of unloading on them my thoughts....in the main room where they are trying to close sales of course! Same dealer that ripped me off many years ago, Damn it felt good! And then they did yet another wheel alignment...for free.. like they are doing us a favor.

Car dealers...don't even get me started. You need to be nice yet aggressive and don't worry about their feelings. Then comes the finance guy...why do we even waste our time with the sale person.... :facepalm:
 
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Step it up gents.

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