Not 5 Star Products....Things That Have Failed
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Cyclotourist
iMTB Hooligan
From what I've read, and experienced personally, IRD doesn't really put out much of anything good.
Danmtchl
iMTB Rockstah
They actually make great headsets, King quality, at half the price. My favorite road bar is their B2 carbon bar. They make good stuff, you just have to look through all the retro styled stuff to find the good stuff.
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Cyclotourist
iMTB Hooligan
I had an IRD hyrdo brakeset, and the master cylinder started splitting in half and leaking. I contacted them about it, and got a big "Sorry, please try a new one." Not a fan.
mtnbikej
J-Zilla
Time to update this:
Headed out for a ride yesterday....only made it 1/2 mile before I was back in the garage...crank was creaky and loose, brake was dragging bad.
Pulled off the non drive side crank arm of my Xt 770, the washer on the inside of the axle mount popped out, and I noticed a crack around the axle hole. Granted these cranks have nearly 20k miles on them...just sad to see them go.
Headed out for a ride yesterday....only made it 1/2 mile before I was back in the garage...crank was creaky and loose, brake was dragging bad.
Pulled off the non drive side crank arm of my Xt 770, the washer on the inside of the axle mount popped out, and I noticed a crack around the axle hole. Granted these cranks have nearly 20k miles on them...just sad to see them go.
Danmtchl
iMTB Rockstah
Those were junk, I knew someone else that had the same problem as you.
Mikie
Admin/iMTB Hooligan
@mtnbikej ,
Seriously... you should really consider becoming a Test Dummy. As much
as you break? Any R&D company would be honored to have you on board!
We should consider a series of articles over on the Magazine side of imtbtrails.
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broke by "J"! ...and What You Should have Bought, maybe..."by mtnbikej
Runs with Scissors
iMTB Hooligan
Crank failure after only 20,000 miles?? Speak the brand name so we may shun it!! 
(I'm pretty sure XT is Shimano)
(I'm pretty sure XT is Shimano)
jimmymats
Member
I've had pretty good luck with most stuff (obviously not putting out as much torque as J). I'd have to agree with the Schwalbe Hans Damph tires though (the expensive compounds). Along with Conti X Kings, the knobs seemed to start disintegrating after a couple of rides. I like Mtn Kings and Trail Kings though.
Oh wait, I did have an XTR pedal just fall off the axle once. Luckily the bike was on the stand, not the trail.
Oh wait, I did have an XTR pedal just fall off the axle once. Luckily the bike was on the stand, not the trail.
Varaxis
Well-Known Member
Maybe then some company decides to design products that pass a custom stress test rig called the "crazy singlespeeder that sometimes tows a dropout mounted trailer" bicycle torture device. They will test to 5x the standard fatigue levels, to account for how J's mileage and elevation climbed is about 5x the perceived average.@mtnbikej ,
Seriously... you should really consider becoming a Test Dummy. As much
We should consider a series of articles over on the Magazine side of imtbtrails.
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by mtnbikej
Varaxis
Well-Known Member
Remnant of a XTR 986... the B-link got twisted from "JRA".
* all the stuff I did to it probably was pushing it to its limits keeping the chain tamed. I was throwing the bike around like it were my SJ FSR Evo 26 for an hour earlier, with a few climbs and descents and plenty of airtime and hard impacts (including rolling BFR numerous times), it came off my Following which I rode like my Yeti ASR7 (scary fast straight lining, jumps, doing silly stuff at speed such as trying to cut tire ruts in soft dirt). Just happened to go when I was climbing an easy hill. Rack it up to fatigue damage.
* all the stuff I did to it probably was pushing it to its limits keeping the chain tamed. I was throwing the bike around like it were my SJ FSR Evo 26 for an hour earlier, with a few climbs and descents and plenty of airtime and hard impacts (including rolling BFR numerous times), it came off my Following which I rode like my Yeti ASR7 (scary fast straight lining, jumps, doing silly stuff at speed such as trying to cut tire ruts in soft dirt). Just happened to go when I was climbing an easy hill. Rack it up to fatigue damage.
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Varaxis
Well-Known Member
Shimano stood behind their product. I don't know what to say... friggen bravo. I couldn't precisely say what caused my RD's B-Link to get twisted in like that, but they could've said things like the bike's RD hanger was bent or any sort of other things to try and prove their proudly made product is not at fault, but...
Does the B-link look longer on the pic on my bike or something? Maybe the bore for the fastener cracked and allowed the RD to slip backwards and jam up. I guess I rode it like that for a dozen miles before it went kaput, coincidentally JRA, up a smooth climb.
Does the B-link look longer on the pic on my bike or something? Maybe the bore for the fastener cracked and allowed the RD to slip backwards and jam up. I guess I rode it like that for a dozen miles before it went kaput, coincidentally JRA, up a smooth climb.
knucklebuster
Well-Known Member
Nice of Shimano to do that for you since you were JRA as they all say
Just curious, did you have to go through a shop to get the replacement? I walked into their HQ one time with a known problem part and they said yes they would warranty it but I had to go to a shop to do the paperwork...
Varaxis
Well-Known Member
I called up, and they said it would be faster and easier if a bike shop took pictures and "diagnosed it" (eliminating possible faults like faulty bike setup), but I mailed it in myself, filling out the paperwork, since it was on a group ride with a JensonUSA with their bike techs and they even suggested it. I bought it from Arts since I had a gift card from them, so I didn't want to burden Jenson with the work.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Me too, but on the trail. And twice. http://www.imtbtrails.com/forum/threads/not-5-star-products-things-that-have-failed.3484/#post-34720
mtnbikej
J-Zilla
Time to update.....again.
Bought a $9.99 Vee Rubber Tire from Pricepoint during their GOFB Sale....lasted exactly 197 miles.
Also recently had to replace yet another Renthal chain ring that was cracked. 3rd one there.
Was out at Noble Canyon this weekend and had an issue with my Monarch RT3 being "stuck down". I had replaced the air can about 2 months ago...this was only the 2nd ride. Went to pull the air can off today to check things out. Because the Shock was stuck down, the air in the Positive chamber had slipped into the Negative chamber and it would not equalize. Put a rag through the lower eyelet and backed the air can off, waiting for the big boom....which there was, when the can finally broke loose. Think I found the problem:
The top cap is cracked where the piston shaft mounts. While I love the way the Monarch feels compared to the Fox shox....this is my 3rd warranty replacement, in addition to a warranty rebuild.
Bought a $9.99 Vee Rubber Tire from Pricepoint during their GOFB Sale....lasted exactly 197 miles.
Also recently had to replace yet another Renthal chain ring that was cracked. 3rd one there.
Was out at Noble Canyon this weekend and had an issue with my Monarch RT3 being "stuck down". I had replaced the air can about 2 months ago...this was only the 2nd ride. Went to pull the air can off today to check things out. Because the Shock was stuck down, the air in the Positive chamber had slipped into the Negative chamber and it would not equalize. Put a rag through the lower eyelet and backed the air can off, waiting for the big boom....which there was, when the can finally broke loose. Think I found the problem:
The top cap is cracked where the piston shaft mounts. While I love the way the Monarch feels compared to the Fox shox....this is my 3rd warranty replacement, in addition to a warranty rebuild.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
2015 Stans 3.30 HD rear hub. Fail after 5 months of riding. Warranty replacement on the way. I'm out $57 for shipping.
DT Swiss 240s held up for 9 years and were still going strong when I sold the bike they were on. Same rider, same type of riding. Just sayin'
DT Swiss 240s held up for 9 years and were still going strong when I sold the bike they were on. Same rider, same type of riding. Just sayin'
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mtnbikej
J-Zilla
Heard back from SRAM.....basically: "Too Bad, So Sad" for me. Out of warranty, and they won't even try to fix it.
Guess it is time to send the RP23 to PUSH....hopefully they can make it feel like the Monarch.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Please please please consider Avalanche Racing - I've never met anyone who didn't love their shock after Craig got a hold of it. It turned my CTD into Cane Creek level performance. Night and day difference.
rojomas
Member
Rock Shox Reverb = Junk!
I've gone through 2 Reverbs now. One regular, one Stealth. Both have been nothing but headaches. The CB Joplin was better. The hydrologic line needs bleeding every month on both. Now the Stealth (that is only a year old) is spongey and Incycle wants $300.00 to rebuild it. I told them to "kick rocks, I can buy a new post for that much!"
I've gone through 2 Reverbs now. One regular, one Stealth. Both have been nothing but headaches. The CB Joplin was better. The hydrologic line needs bleeding every month on both. Now the Stealth (that is only a year old) is spongey and Incycle wants $300.00 to rebuild it. I told them to "kick rocks, I can buy a new post for that much!"
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
I've just finished reading two threads about the Stans Neo hub that was just sent to me. One thread on MTBR, the other on Pinkbike. Both are filled with stories and pictures of broken Neo hub bodies and failed bearings, along with stories from Stans about how they were "early production" or a "bad batch." The posts were all recent - like within the last few weeks.
I've had two rides on mine, and I really liked they way they sound and the way they feel. Quick, quiet engagement. But after reading those two threads, I have little faith that the Neo rear hub will last more than a month. I am sad. I need to keep shopping for a DT Swiss 240s rear hub.
I've had two rides on mine, and I really liked they way they sound and the way they feel. Quick, quiet engagement. But after reading those two threads, I have little faith that the Neo rear hub will last more than a month. I am sad. I need to keep shopping for a DT Swiss 240s rear hub.
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mtnbikej
J-Zilla
I read the same thing over on MTBr. It's like anything....the disgruntled tend to be more noisy than those who have good experiences.
People said the 3.30 hubs were junk...we have a set on Crests that are 5 years old, and while I finally had to swap out the bearings, no issues with shell, FH or axle.
Sounds like those having the most issues are bigger riders. I know I can flex the hell out of the 3.30 hub when I out it on the SS.
Faust29
iMTB Hooligan
My cheap X9 rear hub has held up to a lot more punishment than my Stans ever did... It's a carry over from my full suspension bike, and has also seen duty on the geared el Mariachi, SS el Mariachi, and now the Highball. On a positive note, the front Stan's hub has been perfect and probably has twice the miles that I put on the rear.
Maybe Santa Claus will bring a new wheel set for Christmas with some Chris Kings or DT Swiss...
mtnbikej
J-Zilla
Also, don't waste the money on a 240 hub.....unless you feel fat and are counting every gram. The 350 runs the same internals with a little less machining if the hub shell for a whole lot less.
Redman
iMTB Rockstah
I'll second that.... "Rock Shox Reverb = Junk!"
I'm also on my 2nd one. The first one got rebuilt twice, and then I bent it. So, they warrantied me a new one. This new one has now been rebuilt twice also, picking it up today. Fingers crossed, may be time to try something different.
Makoto
Member
Sram Guide RSC brakes. They felt great for a few months, then I had a sticky rear brake lever that made for some sketchy descending moments. Followed by both the front and rear brakes nearly locking up on me last Saturday 1/2 through my ride forcing me to turn around and cut my ride short. Called my LBS and before I could finish explaining, my mechanic stated that he's already dealt with a few sets. A quick internet search shows other users with the same problem. Sram told my LBS that they will send me a replacement set. Although I appreciate the warranty replacement with little trouble, I would prefer a set of brakes that did what they were supposed to. Especially from Sram having completely revamped the Avid system and dumping the Avid name.
Sram is aware of the issue yet has not dealt with it publicly. I get it, their track record with brakes is horrible, but if they are aware that a part is faulty in their levers, shouldn't them publicly come forward with a fix? From my internet "research" it appears to be tied to a piece of plastic that expands during heat and elevation. Both of which are prevalent in MTB and I would have hoped that they would have realized this issue during testing. I'll give the warranty replacement set a fair shake, but if they fail me I am done with Sram brakes for at least a long while and likely forever.
So far, Hope Tech brakes have been my most reliable set of brakes. Looks like I'll be trying out some new Hopes in my near future.
Sram is aware of the issue yet has not dealt with it publicly. I get it, their track record with brakes is horrible, but if they are aware that a part is faulty in their levers, shouldn't them publicly come forward with a fix? From my internet "research" it appears to be tied to a piece of plastic that expands during heat and elevation. Both of which are prevalent in MTB and I would have hoped that they would have realized this issue during testing. I'll give the warranty replacement set a fair shake, but if they fail me I am done with Sram brakes for at least a long while and likely forever.
So far, Hope Tech brakes have been my most reliable set of brakes. Looks like I'll be trying out some new Hopes in my near future.
mtnbikej
J-Zilla
I don't run a dropper.....I have in the past. A CB Kronolog, that I got free....2nd ride out it started slipping. Got it rebuilt for free. Lasted a few more months, then began slipping again. Got it rebuilt for free. Ran it a few more months then decided I didn't need a dropper post, so I put the Thomson back on.
My impressions of droppers is that they all have problems....the name of the game is to find the one that has the least problems and hope you can deal with it.
Cornholio
iMTB Rockstah
And Mikie will comment on his gravity dropper in 3...2...
My KS Lev has been reliable but it's the only dropper I've had. Serviced once in 3 years.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Interesting. My buddy has a 350 and it's loud as hell. Puts his Chris King to shame. I've heard other 350s that were loud. It's pretty much the only reason I would insist on the 240 over the 350. My 240s was nice and quiet. I can't justify $400 for a hub though. I bought my DT Swiss EX 1750 set (with 240s hubs and bladed spokes) for $650 in 2007. No way I'm spending over half that for just a hub. I might end up with the 350 - or just buy a take-off wheelset somewhere. Trouble is, getting a 12x142mm with xd driver and 32 holes will be a challenge.