UPSed
iMTB Hooligan
27.5?
New Bike Day!
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Faust29
iMTB Hooligan
UPSed
iMTB Hooligan
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
I've seen one at The Path... In fact, I've seen two.
BonsaiNut
iMTB Rockstah
It's interesting how all these bikes are coming with 1x11 or 1x12 drive trains. I don't think I'll ever need a front derailleur again. I'll never be a single-speed guy, but 12 gears seem like more than enough (for me).
UPSed
iMTB Hooligan
Agreed. 1×11 with 30t and 10-42 cassette is near perfect for me though yesterday I would have loved to have Jennifer's 32t and 10-50 cassette on a couple of the climbs.
mtnbikej
J-Zilla
We will see pinion gearboxes/internal transmissions before we ever see front derailleurs again.
FD's have gone the way of the Dodo and dinosaurs.
SnakeCharmer
iMTB Hooligan
Dinosaurs have not left us completely.
Just look up in the sky. That's them flying by, in their modern design.
DangerDirtyD
iMTB Hooligan
Too many shortcomings for Herzie and most anyone but maybe Scissors, and it’s a piss poor climber, so...
Cyclotourist
iMTB Hooligan
Or on the ground! Chickens are the closest relation to dinosaurs around now.
Faust29
iMTB Hooligan
And two other reviews I read had the same conclusions. Pretty to look at, but not very functional.
SnakeCharmer
iMTB Hooligan
Thank you for adding that David!
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Opposite of what Scissors wants. The Foxy's strength is descending.
mike
iMTB Hooligan
This should fit you, herz. 
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2695440/
@Sassyquatch and @DangerDirtyD might endorse it.
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2695440/
@Sassyquatch and @DangerDirtyD might endorse it.
DangerDirtyD
iMTB Hooligan
Nah, he wouldn’t notice one way or the other. Measurements don’t apply. It has 2 wheels, pedals, a saddle, and a handlebar of irrelevant width. It’s a bike.
DangerDirtyD
iMTB Hooligan
Hi, I’m a Chicken Nugget, and I approve this message. It’s a lot of bike for $1,800 bones.This should fit you, herz.
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2695440/
@Sassyquatch and @DangerDirtyD might endorse it.
Faust29
iMTB Hooligan
Hi, I’m a Chicken Nugget, and I approve this message. It’s a lot of bike for $1,800 bones.
It's a frame for $1800 bones. That's not a good deal...
Now, the one for sale from GG looks dreamy... Too small for Herz, though.
mtnbikej
J-Zilla
I think I'll just get this Megatower:
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Even has room for a water bottle inside the frame!
Super practical.
SnakeCharmer
iMTB Hooligan
mike
iMTB Hooligan
Yep, frame only with a fancy coil shock. List price on the PB classifieds rarely is the selling price...Hi, I’m a Chicken Nugget, and I approve this message. It’s a lot of bike for $1,800 bones.
Point I failed to make is a cheap used something would be less sting if it’s not bliss. Moot point if the rider just wants a new bike.
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herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Thanks guys, but I'm gonna steer away from a bike that weighs 36 lbs. I'm not as strong as you beasts.Yep, frame only with a fancy coil shock. List price on the PB classifieds rarely is the selling price...
mike
iMTB Hooligan
The 00s are over. It’s okay to have a bike that weights 30+. Especially fir you gargantuan sized people. You’ll notice the weight when you put it on the rack or stand. Otherwise you wont. Especially with that geo, look at that sad STA on the Mega, no thanks.
scan
iMTB Rockstah
Help me understand how that frees up designers??The elimination of the front derailleur has freed up frame designers to come up with more acceptable geometry for 29 inch wheels and longer travel.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
I'm not an engineer, so I am merely repeating what I've read and what sounds likely. It stands to reason that trying to create a stable place to mount a front derailleur that stays aligned and accurate creates some design constraints in terms of tubing shape, chainline, pivot locations, chainstay length and more. Once they stopped worrying about front derailleurs, chainstays got shorter (on 29 ers), pivot locations moved to more advantageous locations, there was room for wider tires, etc. Am I wrong?
Where would you put a front derailleur on this? Did this not free up designers to run a straight, uninterrupted seat tube and put the suspension linkage in a better location, adding torsional stiffness to a critical part of the bike?
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UPSed
iMTB Hooligan
I'm no engineer but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and your explanation sounds spot on.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
The Mega in the picture has a 200mm dual crown fork attached to it. I posted that as a semi-joke. The effective seat tube angles on the Mega and the Hightower are both about 76.3° (XXL) - plenty steep and roughly the same as the Smash (75.9).
As an XL guy who likes stout, sturdy bikes with 5.5-6.5" of travel, I have gotten used to my bikes weighing 30 lbs, +/- 1 lb. I noticed the weight difference between the Hightower and Megatower when I test rode them.
Seems you won't relent unless I agree that an aluminum Smash with a coil shock is the right bike for me. OK - the aluminum Smash with a coil shock is the best bike for me, but I am not going to buy one, because I am obviously stupid, uninformed, unenlighted and unskilled.
PS: @littlewave - wanna chime in here?
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mike
iMTB Hooligan
Haha!! You never know for sure until ya try.The Mega in the picture has a 200mm dual crown fork attached to it. I posted that as a semi-joke. The seat tube angles on the Mega and the Hightower are both about 76.3° (XXL) - plenty steep and roughly the same as the Smash (75.9).
As an XL guy who likes stout, sturdy bikes with 5-6.5" of travel, I have gotten used to my bikes weighing 30 lbs, +/- 1 lb. I noticed the weight difference between the Hightower and Megatower when I test rode them.
Seems you won't relent unless I agree that an aluminum Smash with a coil shock is the right bike for me. OK - the aluminum Smash with a coil shock is the best bike for me, but I am not going to buy one, because I am obviously stupid, uninformed, unenlighted and unskilled.
Was I that insistent? I don’t like to pressure anyone...you got this. 