Coronavirus. Not to be confused with Norcovirus.

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”

In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”

“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”

“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “

Cuomo stressed the need for both public health and economic growth. “We have to do both,” said the governor. “We’re working on it.”
 
BonsaiNut said:
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”

In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”

“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”

“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “

Cuomo stressed the need for both public health and economic growth. “We have to do both,” said the governor. “We’re working on it.”
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It's nice to see some non-binary thinking from someone who recently made the very binary statement about saving the economy vs. saving lives. As we have discussed here, I sure hope the deleterious effects to health from a collapsed economy start to play more into the public discussion.
 
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention underestimated the threat from the emerging outbreak of the coronavirus in the US — and bungled its communication with local public health agencies about what actions to take, according to a report.

ProPublica obtained hundreds of pages of documents that it said painted a picture of chaos at the country’s leading national public health agency that slowed the early response to the deadly illness.

On Feb. 13, the CDC sent out an email with what the writer described as an “URGENT” appeal for assistance as the agency was struggling to keep track of people suspected of being infected, the nonprofit news outlet reported.

“Help needed urgently,” the missive said amid “an ongoing issue” with organizing — and at times even misplacing — material sent by local agencies about Americans believed to be infected.

In a bid to correct the botched efforts, the CDC listed job postings for candidates who could track down the missing paperwork. By the time the jobs posting went out, there were already 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the US — two weeks before the first case of community transmission was reported in California. In a sign of the CDC’s state of confusion, ProPublica cited documents that show the agency informed Nevada about 80 possible coronavirus patients to monitor — though four of them lived in New York, not Nevada.
 
BonsaiNut said:
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday that his stay-at-home order for the entirety of New York State was “probably not the best public health strategy.”

In a press conference in Albany, Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”

“What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”

“If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don't know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo admitted. “I don't even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “

Cuomo stressed the need for both public health and economic growth. “We have to do both,” said the governor. “We’re working on it.”
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I can attest to the negativity! My elderly mother who lives in rural NY was CAF when I called last night to share some big news... My brothers say it’s cabin fever. They threatened to take her car keys if she doesn’t behave...
 
Faust29 said:
I can attest to the negativity! My elderly mother who lives in rural NY was CAF when I called last night to share some big news... My brothers say it’s cabin fever. They threatened to take her car keys if she doesn’t behave...
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My elders don’t drive often, so far they’ve been staying at home...my plan is to NOT start their cars occasionally to keep the battery alive...
 
COVID-19 anti-tension elixir...

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UPSed said:
Had someone tell Jennifer and myself that we weren't social distancing on our ride this weekend. :facepalm:
She's my wife and we live together. It's okay.
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Imagine what it's like at that person's home. Each member of the family is confined to a room and nobody can be in the same room (kitchen, for example) at the same time. Each family member who uses the facilities (kitchen/bathroom) has to completely sterilize that facility after each use. No group family activities (games/home movies/discussions). Facetiming with family members at home in different rooms while everyone is home. Sounds lovely. :facepalm:o_O:rolleyes:
 
SnakeCharmer said:
Imagine what it's like at that person's home. Each member of the family is confined to a room and nobody can be in the same room (kitchen, for example) at the same time. Each family member who uses the facilities (kitchen/bathroom) has to completely sterilize that facility after each use. No group family activities (games/home movies/discussions). Facetiming with family members at home in different rooms while everyone is home. Sounds lovely. :facepalm:o_O:rolleyes:
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Or... That person just made an ASSumption about Ed and Jennifer.

My tenth grade geometry teacher, Mrs. Seeley, loved to use the ASSumption line when talking about geometry. She was a good one... :thumbsup:
 
Two kinds of people in this thing - the militant "SIX FEET" people who are scared of everybody, yet are somehow out in public - and the Space Invaders who, like a honey badger - just don't give a Sh!t. As usual, not much common sense middle ground.
 
While waiting my turn to enter the self-checkout area at the Lake Forest Ralph's today, I had a woman, literally, elbow me and push me out of the way from behind. Physical contact... I gave an audible "What the F***?". The employee who was cleaning the terminals between each customer witnessed it, and berated the line cutter forcefully with style. As did I, along with the four or five people behind me.

Asshat tried to argue, saying she cut no one. Ralph's employee stood firm, and told her bluntly to get a grip, wait in line like everyone else, and if she was incapable of doing that to get out of the store.

If I get the virus, I blame the asshat in Ralph's whose behavior would have sucked even before the apocalypse...
 
Six feet is a start, but doesn't seem enough when just breathing the same air reportedly can transmit the virus. Apparently the little critters attach to particles in the air, "float" around and remain viable for up to three hours. Statement tonight that of 60 members in a choir, 45 contacted corona after a rehearsal even though the group said they practiced social distancing (doubtful in a choir, but still scary).
 
I've been pretty immune to feeling stressed about this as I basically have a chill demeanor. But I need to admit that the whole "stay at home" Covid virus thing is starting to get to me. I no longer have the news on but for a very short period of time. F' the news and the non stop Drama, time to cancel cable.

I really need to ride more, as when on the MTB my mind is free.

Hope this feeling is temporary. Ride on and be strong my friends!
And say a short prayer for those truly sick and suffering.
 
Old&InTheWay said:
The temporary folding no parking signs on Silverado Canyon Road between Blackstar and downtown Silverado have been replaced with the permanent type like you would see on city streets.

Signs like this are on Modjeska Canyon Road. Don't think they are official, just put up by residents.

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Official signs will have a Vehicle Code or City/County Ordinance.
 
UPSed said:
Today was the first time in several weeks that I've stepped into a grocery store. For the most part people were normal but there were a few wearing masks and gloves. It was kind of creepy. Thankfully all of the employees were acting normal. I hope this ends soon.
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If we are very lucky, things might start, and I stress START, to seem like they are turning toward possibly returning to normal but at the same time being a long way from normal in June. But personally, I think it's going to take longer than that.

I stepped INSIDE my local Ralphs market today for the first time since panic mode set in. I drive by it several times a week hoping that there will not be a line waiting to get in but up until today, there was always a line.

We are all about to be advised to start wearing a simple mask whenever mixing in with others (like grocery shopping). Time to get creative!
 
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