Coronavirus. Not to be confused with Norcovirus.

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It is primarily thought to spread by contact: initially enters the body via mucous membranes: eyes, nose, mouth. Then spreads down airways to lungs.

Mostly droplet related but fecal/oral thought to be another route.

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ecently, some are suggesting may be able to aerosolize, but contact is still thought main route.

Yeah by far the greater likelihood would be contact with animals rather than eating, although the latter is not impossible, since mucous membranes are in the mouth and the shared common passage for oropharynx and nasopharynx.

Definitely these zoonotic infections are quite scary in their potential.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...navirus-remains-in-air-on-surfaces-2/2333477/
 
So now might be a good time for me to visit. Ride in and camp, do some hiking. No crowds. Perfect.

Just make sure to bring plenty of water. It is a dry camp and the closest water is at the ranger station. However all the latrines were open... even past the closed gates. In my opinion it would be an AWESOME time to mountain bike through the park. Once you got two miles in on the road, you wouldn't see another soul and the park would be yours!
 
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Just make sure to bring plenty of water. It is a dry camp and the closest water is at the ranger station. However all the latrines were open... even past the closed gates. In my opinion it would be an AWESOME time to mountain bike through the park. Once you got two miles in on the road, you wouldn't see another soul and the park would be yours!
So, pedal into the Park via the JT entrance. Continue pedaling to Geology Tour Road, take that down into Pleasant Valley and camp for a night. Then pedal out.
 
So, pedal into the Park via the JT entrance. Continue pedaling to Geology Tour Road, take that down into Pleasant Valley and camp for a night. Then pedal out.

Joshua Tree allows free dispersed camping. You have to be 1 mile from a road and 500 feet from a trail... but to be honest I saw backpackers setting up in one of the Indian Cove camping spots and I'm not sure that anyone is going to be around to care. Certainly if you bike back into the center of the park there will be NO ONE there. If you go to Sheep Pass in the interior you are ten miles from the closest gate. You could always just call and ask a ranger about it.

Dispersed Camping in Joshua Tree

Here is my big Joshua Tree map:

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Wow, that sucks!!! They want us to maintain our health by keeping active but they are taking the nice places to be active away from us?! :mad:

Next, they will impose Marital Law and have the Nat'l Guard out patrolling the streets. :facepalm:

Hate to think of that happening, but seems inevitable especially with individuals blatantly opposing the "suggestions"
 
It doesn't explicitly say the trails are closed, just the trail access - which could presumably mean trailhead parking lots? Hopefully....

I drove past the beach on my way home tonight. Police had all the beach parking lots blocked off with a cruiser parked blocking each entrance. Trailheads were all packed again today. The one I went to usually has 6-10 cars. Today the lot was jammed with cars parked for 100 yds along the road in either direction. Didn't see that many people on the trail, not sure where they all were.
 
Friday it was crickets but the sunny weekend brought folks out I guess.

I just listened to the Goldman Sachs podcast interviewing the drug companies. Super interesting. Way better to hear the story straight from people who actually know Science things, and not filtered through the keyboard of an English Major.

The good news is that the testing availability is going to get better in the coming weeks. Quest Diagnostics says they can process 10,000 tests per day out of their San Juan lab, and double that by the end of the month. Roche said they are set up to process 5 million tests per month, now they need someone to make all the synthetic q-tips, and a bunch of folks to run the tests.

nobody has a test yet to see if you already had the disease and are now immune.
 
My parents are reporting that the bars and restaurants are open in Hesperia and Lucerne. if anyone wants to prove that we’re all a bunch of sheeple, you have your chance.
 
It doesn't explicitly say the trails are closed, just the trail access - which could presumably mean trailhead parking lots? Hopefully....

I drove past the beach on my way home tonight. Police had all the beach parking lots blocked off with a cruiser parked blocking each entrance. Trailheads were all packed again today. The one I went to usually has 6-10 cars. Today the lot was jammed with cars parked for 100 yds along the road in either direction. Didn't see that many people on the trail, not sure where they all were.
Yeah it’s super unclear. Access from canyon vistas open since not in Laguna Beach?
Gonna Check with ocparks tomorrow
 
Joshua Tree allows free dispersed camping. You have to be 1 mile from a road and 500 feet from a trail... but to be honest I saw backpackers setting up in one of the Indian Cove camping spots and I'm not sure that anyone is going to be around to care. Certainly if you bike back into the center of the park there will be NO ONE there. If you go to Sheep Pass in the interior you are ten miles from the closest gate. You could always just call and ask a ranger about it.

Dispersed Camping in Joshua Tree

Here is my big Joshua Tree map:

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Do u know much about rattlesnake canyon near Indian cove?
 
I just hoarded-purchased a bunch of paper towels on ebay. Although the price was higher than it should be, it wasn't half bad considering that it included shipping. Heck, the less I need to go out and shop with the crowds, the less of a chance I get infected or infect others. Not saying that I am infected but who knows, maybe we are all infected???
 
This is from the Santa Monica Mountains NPS instagram, and is encouraging:

Solstice Canyon, a National Park Service site, will close ‪Monday, March 23.‬ All other sites, which include hiking, biking, equestrian trails, parking lots and restrooms, will remain open for now.
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David Szymanski, the park superintendent for SMMNRA, says he does not want to limit access to trails, but public safety is critical and overcrowding at the popular site had become a concern because the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and public health department guidance could not be met. Park and public health officials are closely monitoring public use and may close other locations if social distancing cannot be maintained.
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“The health and safety of visitors, employees, volunteers and partners is our number one priority as we work to limit the threat of exposure to the virus,” said Syzmanski. “There are more than 300 points of entry into the Recreation Area and this may be the ideal opportunity for visitors to explore less visited trails while we battle the COVID-19 pandemic. Hiking and being outside is healthy, but we must follow the local, state and national guidelines that have been set by maintaining a safe distance of six feet from others who are also out enjoying nature.”
 
This is from the Santa Monica Mountains NPS instagram, and is encouraging:

Solstice Canyon, a National Park Service site, will close ‪Monday, March 23.‬ All other sites, which include hiking, biking, equestrian trails, parking lots and restrooms, will remain open for now.
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David Szymanski, the park superintendent for SMMNRA, says he does not want to limit access to trails, but public safety is critical and overcrowding at the popular site had become a concern because the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and public health department guidance could not be met. Park and public health officials are closely monitoring public use and may close other locations if social distancing cannot be maintained.
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“The health and safety of visitors, employees, volunteers and partners is our number one priority as we work to limit the threat of exposure to the virus,” said Syzmanski. “There are more than 300 points of entry into the Recreation Area and this may be the ideal opportunity for visitors to explore less visited trails while we battle the COVID-19 pandemic. Hiking and being outside is healthy, but we must follow the local, state and national guidelines that have been set by maintaining a safe distance of six feet from others who are also out enjoying nature.”
I saw that and I'm not sure if it contradicts closures posted yesterday. In the meantime I'll stick to gravel and if I come across some singletrack and there's no signage....:whistling:
 
My parents are reporting that the bars and restaurants are open in Hesperia and Lucerne. if anyone wants to prove that we’re all a bunch of sheeple, you have your chance.

No thanks. As ive said before on this thread, im not worried about the virus... im worried about other people. Actually when you think about it, the virus IS other people. No host, no virus.
 
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Do u know much about rattlesnake canyon near Indian cove?
Yes i am very familiar with it. You cant access the parking lot of the day use area currently with a car; they have the road closed at the ranger station anout 2.5 miles away. I have hiked and climbed up Rattlesnake Canyon numerous times.

Here is what the Indian Cove loop looks like from the rocks behind Indian Cove (looking north). Rattlesnake Canyon is down the road heading to the right.

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Yes i am very familiar with it. You cant access the parking lot of the day use area currently with a car; they have the road closed at the ranger station anout 2.5 miles away. I have hiked and climbed up Rattlesnake Canyon numerous times.
If you are still up there in the High Desert, take a drive over to the trilobite fossil hills and dig some up just East of Amboy.
 
I saw that and I'm not sure if it contradicts closures posted yesterday. In the meantime I'll stick to gravel and if I come across some singletrack and there's no signage....:whistling:
My reading of the announcement yesterday was that all trails in the SMMNRA were closed. If they are in fact open, that is great for locals.

I was hoping to get in another trip up there this spring but that's too far for a day trip and I don't think campgrounds are open nor does it seem socially responsible to be going camping right now. : (
 
Yes i am very familiar with it. You cant access the parking lot of the day use area currently with a car; they have the road closed at the ranger station anout 2.5 miles away. I have hiked and climbed up Rattlesnake Canyon numerous times.

Here is what the Indian Cove loop looks like from the rocks behind Indian Cove (looking north). Rattlesnake Canyon is down the road heading to the right.

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In future ... Going up rattlesnake canyon.. following the wash.. and some scrambling over a false ridge... For about one mile from day use area... Search on right as u r looking up canyon..strangely...there r caves w water that someone put a spigot .faucet into.. maybe u been there already...it's in a natural amphitheatre like opening as u follow the wash...
 
My reading of the announcement yesterday was that all trails in the SMMNRA were closed. If they are in fact open, that is great for locals.

I was hoping to get in another trip up there this spring but that's too far for a day trip and I don't think campgrounds are open nor does it seem socially responsible to be going camping right now. : (
My understanding this morning is they're trying to keep the trails open just closing trailheads and related parking areas.
 
My understanding this morning is they're trying to keep the trails open just closing trailheads and related parking areas.
Hmmm, I sense some uncertainty here.

If I go ride the Santa Monicas and I don't leave in handcuffs, then we can assume that the area is open for use?
 
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