Unoffically Official 2017 VQ and CC Thread

mtnbikej said:
Make sure to get the EXO/TR version. Use the old tire after the event when getting a flat isn't as important. You'll just have a spare. Also, you are sure it is the tire and not the valve stem? If the tire is going flat and you are seeing any Stans coming out a puncture location, it could be a bad seal around the valve stem/rim interface.
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My current tire is the EXO version.
I saw the Sten coming out of the center of the thread pattern about 3" for the valve stem.
I'll probably order a new tire, and make the final call when I get back home (from TX) on Wednesday night.
 
DBMX119 said:
I'd take it off, clean it up and try to find the hole. If its not able to be seen, then I'd throw it back on with a little extra Stans and run it! If you find a hole, you can always patch it for added security.
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I never repaired a TL tire (on a bike).
If by Wednesday the tire is flat. I'll replace it (and repair the old one later on).


How do you go about repair a TL tire? With a regular tube patch?
 
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Want to hear my war story? One of my VQ's a few years back I flatted on Blackstar. Really messed with me psychologically. Kept going- but wasn't feeling great that day. Ended up missing the lower holy Jim parking lot cutoff by 2 minutes!!! Getting turned around after 6+ hours in the saddle was rough. You never know how these things will play out. I would never risk not having a perfectly tuned bike for this event because you have SO much invested in it. Get new tires, you'll need them at some point anyway. Good luck to all this weekend!!! Ride strong!
 
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MolarM said:
Want to hear my war story? One of my VQ's a few years back I flatted on Blackstar. Really messed with me psychologically. Kept going- but wasn't feeling great that day. Ended up missing the lower holy Jim parking lot cutoff by 2 minutes!!! Getting turned around after 6+ hours in the saddle was rough. You never know how these things will play out. I would never risk having a perfectly tuned bike for this event because you have SO much invested in it. Get new tires, you'll need them at some point anyway. Good luck to all this weekend!!! Ride strong!
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Exactly....things happen. Some can be controlled, some not. There is something to be said about changing a flat when you are on your own time....but put the pressure of time cutoffa and there is a chance of it taking longer than normal size nice you are trying to rush through it.
 
Sharone - You have been training for a year and probably sacrified a lot of family time to get ready for this. Don't let a $50-$80 tire compromise your countless hours in the saddle for a DNF. You will kick yourself should it fail and you do not finish. Put a new tire on so you have one less thing to worry about. Come Friday night and Saturday morning you do not want to be messing with it.


HBkites said:
I never repaired a TL tire (on a bike).
If by Wednesday the tire is flat. I'll replace it (and repair the old one later on).


How do you go about repair a TL tire? With a regular tube patch?
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Fijirob said:
Sharone - You have been training for a year and probably sacrified a lot of family time to get ready for this. Don't let a $50-$80 tire compromise your countless hours in the saddle for a DNF. You will kick yourself should it fail and you do not finish. Put a new tire on so you have one less thing to worry about. Come Friday night and Saturday morning you do not want to be messing with it.
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That was my initial reaction to it, but I wanted to make sure I'm not overreacting.

It is not about the money. It is about making sure I'm not making too big of a deal out of one event.
After all, it is just a bike ride. The longest one I ever attempted, but it is just a ride.
I'm not going to win it, and if I finished I probably wouldn't be the last guy to finish.
I'm over thinking it..... time to get back to work.
 
mtnbikej said:
Which can be done.....but trying to get the tire dries out and patched by next weekend may be pushing it.


Tip #2 works well:
https://m.pinkbike.com/news/Tech-Tuesday-Three-Ways-to-Save-A-Leaky-Tubeless-Tire-2012.html
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Well "dry" is a relative term. ha ha. I've never waited more than a few minutes. I usually wipe it with a paper towel then hit it with the sand paper a few minutes later, add the glue and patch. I'll let it sit for 30 minutes or so and will then throw it back on the bike. I've never had to do it on a MTB tire but have done it on several CX tires that were cut by shrapnel the road within a few rides of being new. I'm probably breaking all kinds of rules, but I've never had problems after doing that.

That being said: I agree 100% with the statement someone made above. Its not worth risking a DNF or even dealing with a leaky tire on race day. Get a new one and you can recycle the other one back into rotation after it wears out.
 
HBkites said:
That was my initial reaction to it, but I wanted to make sure I'm not overreacting.

It is not about the money. It is about making sure I'm not making too big of a deal out of one event.
After all, it is just a bike ride. The longest one I ever attempted, but it is just a ride.
I'm not going to win it, and if I finished I probably wouldn't be the last guy to finish.
I'm over thinking it..... time to get back to work.
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We're in the same boat... I don't want to keep overthinking everything, or go in unprepared. But after reading the suggestions, it makes sense. Swap the tires for new, change the brake pads, check all the nuts and bolts, and be as prepared as possible. What will be, will be... :thumbsup:
 
Faust29 said:
We're in the same boat... I don't want to keep overthinking everything, or go in unprepared. But after reading the suggestions, it makes sense. Swap the tires for new, change the brake pads, check all the nuts and bolts, and be as prepared as possible. What will be, will be... :thumbsup:
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I've taken you out on some death marches that are harder than VQ and you did fine.

Just enjoy it.
 
Given my lack of training my attitude towards Saturday (CC) has shifted to "fugg it, let's see how far your fat ass can get." I'm going to load up on Tailwind, take breaks when I feel my heart pumping too much and push my bike when I need to. I felt like crap yesterday but riding to the Doppler ball still wasn't even that bad so maybe I can make it or maybe I'll limp out defeated, either way I am going to try. Heck, I did the Mt. Whitney hike in one day a few years ago with no training at all (ok I kinda lied, I rode maple springs to 4 corners a week before as "training"). This will be harder than hiking for 15 hours though. :thumbsdown:
 
Faust29 said:
All right, all right... I'll tell the butterflies to get lost. :cautious:
Yeah... I'm pretty sure the Wrightwood 50 is going to stay at the top of the heap as far as difficulty, exertion and the focus required. VQ should be a walk in the park! :whistling:
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Exactly..:...and I completely forgot about that one.
 
Cornholio said:
Given my lack of training my attitude towards Saturday (CC) has shifted to "fugg it, let's see how far your fat ass can get." I'm going to load up on Tailwind, take breaks when I feel my heart pumping too much and push my bike when I need to. I felt like crap yesterday but riding to the Doppler ball still wasn't even that bad so maybe I can make it or maybe I'll limp out defeated, either way I am going to try. Heck, I did the Mt. Whitney hike in one day a few years ago with no training at all (ok I kinda lied, I rode maple springs to 4 corners a week before as "training"). This will be harder than hiking for 15 hours though. :thumbsdown:
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:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Event day makes some things a little easier. You tend to get pulled along through Blackstar.

Hopefully we'll get to ride together up Maple Springs. :D
 
On the spectating side; I'm still looking at going up Maple to the top of Motorway and then 4c.
In case anyone is having issues on the course, what kind of support is or is not allowed?
 
Mounted new tires onto the JET, the 2.35 Ikon looks wider than the 2.4 Ardent.. I am sure the Ardent will grow a little but not that much.

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So the 4 times I've done CC/VQ I've ratcheted up the complexity to keep things interesting for myself (CC geared, CC SS, VQ SS, VQ SS rigid).

Although I've gone back to CC based on predicted reduced riding time with the kiddos and all, I've got my biggest challenge this year... 4/8 will be the first time I've touched my bike in 3 weeks due to some back/hip issues I've been nursing since my last ride. Not really sure what I did to it, but got to a point I couldn't throw my leg over the saddle... figured it was time to take a rest.

Minimal bike prep and winging it in the nutrition department sounds like a recipe for success this year. :thumbsup:

I'm still gonna go out and give her hell, although @mtnbikej may be scraping me off the trail somewhere between the Maple Pavement and 4C.o_O
 
MegaLurker said:
So the 4 times I've done CC/VQ I've ratcheted up the complexity to keep things interesting for myself (CC geared, CC SS, VQ SS, VQ SS rigid).

Although I've gone back to CC based on predicted reduced riding time with the kiddos and all, I've got my biggest challenge this year... 4/8 will be the first time I've touched my bike in 3 weeks due to some back/hip issues I've been nursing since my last ride. Not really sure what I did to it, but got to a point I couldn't throw my leg over the saddle... figured it was time to take a rest.

Minimal bike prep and winging it in the nutrition department sounds like a recipe for success this year. :thumbsup:

I'm still gonna go out and give her hell, although @mtnbikej may be scraping me off the trail somewhere between the Maple Pavement and 4C.o_O
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Sounds like you got it all figured out. :thumbsup:

I'll have the whip, cattle prod and the broom. :eek:
 
DBMX119 said:
Well.... The percentage of rain continues to increase for Silverado on Saturday. This could be interesting.

I'll need to figure out if it would be worth bringing a change of gloves and a thicker jacket as you get to the peak. Coming down from the peak with wet gloves in cold weather is no bueno!
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To paraphrase a famous quote: "You've got to get to the peak.. to descend from the peak."

One Friday night forecast: "A steady rain in the evening. Showers continuing late. Low 58F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%."

Of course they've been wrong before..
 
kioti said:
To paraphrase a famous quote: "You've got to get to the peak.. to descend from the peak."

One Friday night forecast: "A steady rain in the evening. Showers continuing late. Low 58F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%."

Of course they've been wrong before..
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My only real concern is the mud on B*. Everything else should be good. Thankfully, thanks to all the bad weather I have experience on the rest of the trails in the rain. :)
 
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