The Fire Thread

mtnbikej said:
Anybody know of a current burn area map? All I can find is the evacuation maps.
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This one if accurate painted a pretty good picture this morning. Looks like the firies are on top of it now. Friend in Portola Hills just had the mandatory evacuation lifted (they didn't go). Chinooks been shuttling back and forth over their place all morning, looks like its using Oso reservoir to fill the tank.

SingleTrackJB said:
https://data.jconline.com/fires/ca-fire/a2665121-7dd7-4a4c-8c6e-0731ed9e1888/bond-fire/

is a good site (perhaps click on the link of bond fire if it does not show)
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Sucks to hear about your friends losing a place @mtnbikej :( is it true most can't even get fire insurance in there?
 
da big hills said:
putting wires in the air on dead trees was easy. Well it is 2020, why can't we put the non conductive spreader bars spaced on the wires between the dead trees? This way when the wires dance in the Santa Ana winds they will dance together instead of mono. When they dance mono they run into each other and create sparks. They have been stringing wires this way for 100 years, and the Santa Anas have been blowing for 100 years. Is there a connection between the two events?
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DBMX119 said:
Why not move everything underground?
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Rumpled said:
Billions and billions of dollars.
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That’s a lot of trenching through all kinds of earth/habitat/urban development, and maintenance logistics for underground utilities are considerable. As far as SCE is concerned, many dollars are spent every day in large conference rooms (via computer these days) talking about this. I‘ve been the archaeologist in the room, waiting for marching orders. My input was of least priority, except when the utilities encroach on known village sites, Tribal land, or National Parks.
 
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Lost Kiwi said:
This one if accurate painted a pretty good picture this morning. Looks like the firies are on top of it now. Friend in Portola Hills just had the mandatory evacuation lifted (they didn't go). Chinooks been shuttling back and forth over their place all morning, looks like its using Oso reservoir to fill the tank.


Sucks to hear about your friends losing a place @mtnbikej :( is it true most can't even get fire insurance in there?
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Best to my knowledge, no fire or flood insurance back there.
 
mtnbikej said:
Anybody know of a current burn area map? All I can find is the evacuation maps.
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This is from a video on the ocfa’s twitter feed

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Looks like it didn’t spread far into Cnf as of now. Possible impact to access to Harding
 
DangerDirtyD said:
That’s a lot of trenching through all kinds of earth/habitat/urban development, and maintenance logistics for underground utilities are considerable. As far as SCE is concerned, many dollars are spent every day in large conference rooms (via computer these days) talking about this. I‘ve been the archaeologist in the room, waiting for marching orders. My input was of least priority, except when the utilities encroach on known village sites, Tribal land, or National Parks.
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Fires are costing billions and billions. Not to mention lives lost.

Just dig up roads and put them underneath. I know I'm over simplifying, but I'm sure there are creative ways of doing it. Sure it would be an inconvenience for a bit, but worth it in the long run. :geek:
 
DBMX119 said:
Fires are costing billions and billions. Not to mention lives lost.

Just dig up roads and put them underneath. I know I'm over simplifying, but I'm sure there are creative ways of doing it. Sure it would be an inconvenience for a bit, but worth it in the long run. :geek:
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All new development is pretty much doing this. Existing infrastructure is a battle between conflicting interests. Ironically, SDG&E has been implementing a program for at least 15 years whereby they are systematically replacing wood utility poles with steel poles so that their facilities remain reliable in case of fire.
 
"Visited" B* last night for a "whine" ride. The ride out Santiago Canyon suggests Limestone was torched completely and the fire nearly reached the motorhome parking area at Irvine Lake. Cold ride in the dark, but I overdressed and was too hot even at snail speed.
 
fos'l said:
"Visited" B* last night for a "whine" ride. The ride out Santiago Canyon suggests Limestone was torched completely and the fire nearly reached the motorhome parking area at Irvine Lake. Cold ride in the dark, but I overdressed and was too hot even at snail speed.
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Bummer. I love Limestone Canyon. I imagine it will be a very long time before it opens up again, as they were already super protective of it before the fires.
 
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