The Automobile Thread

Not to be a luddite, but certain functions in cars need to be physical buttons or knobs and not touch screen functions buried in a menu. It's a matter of safety.

All HVAC controls should be physical buttons or knobs. Temp, fan speed and vent selection.

All sound trimming should be knobs - volume, bass, treble, balance, fader, subwoofer level (if so equipped) - and a mute button, for when Madison talks.
 
Wife's 2011 Bimmer has a recall (VANOS bolts), so it's in the shop for a couple days. They gave us a 2024 230i as a loaner.
It's a nice car, smoothly fast while providing good mileage (28mpg so far). Waaaaay too much tech for me (screens, how do they work!), unengaging motor (yes, fast, but not visceral), and floaty electric steering which her 2011 already had. Pretty much what I was expecting so maybe confirmation bias. I just don't care for modern cars :-/ My car is an '06 with a straight six, a manual transmission, and no screens. It has 235xxx miles on it, and apparently I need to keep it going till 300k!

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Really nice looking car though.
 
Really nice looking car though.
It was a good car, just not my thing. Nice proportions inside and out. The first "modern" car I've been in.
Don't believe the hype.
We looked at the I4 but I'm glad we went with the Polestar.
So far, I love the car. I even enjoyed driving my wife around to estate sales in it today. It definitely feels more like a luxury car than a performance car. My little Mazda 3 feels like it's on rails. This feels like a heavy-ass Lexus but accelerates like crazy. I drove a Plaid once and it feels very similar if you just jam the pedal down on a long empty road.
I'm also not a fan of all the modern touches. I'd originally wanted just a bare bones WRX but, the price on the Polestar was too good to pass up. Our garage is tiny and the car freaks out every-time I pull in or out of it.
 
We looked at the I4 but I'm glad we went with the Polestar.
So far, I love the car. I even enjoyed driving my wife around to estate sales in it today. It definitely feels more like a luxury car than a performance car. My little Mazda 3 feels like it's on rails. This feels like a heavy-ass Lexus but accelerates like crazy. I drove a Plaid once and it feels very similar if you just jam the pedal down on a long empty road.
I'm also not a fan of all the modern touches. I'd originally wanted just a bare bones WRX but, the price on the Polestar was too good to pass up. Our garage is tiny and the car freaks out every-time I pull in or out of it.

I'm down for a BEV, but really hate all the screens and tech. If I have to go into a menu somewhere to change the temp, I ain't doing it!
 
I don't think so. Spill the beans!
Her 16 year old Civic EX was old and failing and we were tired of pouring money into it. It was a great car in it's day and still a great builder car for someone, but it was well time for a replacement.

So I researched over the course of a few months. We wanted to avoid forced induction for engine longevity and CVT transmissions, even though they are slowly getting better. And it needed to be affordable for us. Didn't want another Honda, didn't like the way Toyotas drive. Everyone I know who ever owned a Mazda loved it. So, we decided on a 2024 Mazda CX-5 S Select. Just enough creature features without too much technology to break. Still, it's shocking how far vehicles have come since she got the Civic in 2008. I went through that when I bought my CRV, but things have advanced even more now. White with black interior and she loves it! It drives really nice. Plenty of pep, auto trans, excellent fit to finish, and the doors close with a solid but gentle thud (not tinny). Did the Auto Club Vehicle Purchasing Program which eliminated any haggling. Set price (less than sticker) with an $800 discount on top of that and 20% discount off any accessories. Of course they offered extended warranty/service contract/security system but they didn't push when we passed on the offers. Interestingly, the CX-5 is an old car. Mazda has been really smart with their cars. They generally pass on the periodic ground up redesigns as long as what they are offering sells well. Instead, they fine tune (if needed) what is already a success. There hasn't been a single recall for the 2024 CX-5 (as of now). Another really cool thing is that all CX-5s are built in Japan. I like it so much that I may end up with one, too.
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Her 16 year old Civic EX was old and failing and we were tired of pouring money into it. It was a great car in it's day and still a great builder car for someone, but it was well time for a replacement.

So I researched over the course of a few months. We wanted to avoid forced induction for engine longevity and CVT transmissions, even though they are slowly getting better. And it needed to be affordable for us. Didn't want another Honda, didn't like the way Toyotas drive. Everyone I know who ever owned a Mazda loved it. So, we decided on a 2024 Mazda CX-5 S Select. Just enough creature features without too much technology to break. Still, it's shocking how far vehicles have come since she got the Civic in 2008. I went through that when I bought my CRV, but things have advanced even more now. White with black interior and she loves it! It drives really nice. Plenty of pep, auto trans, excellent fit to finish, and the doors close with a solid but gentle thud (not tinny). Did the Auto Club Vehicle Purchasing Program which eliminated any haggling. Set price (less than sticker) with an $800 discount on top of that and 20% discount off any accessories. Of course they offered extended warranty/service contract/security system but they didn't push when we passed on the offers. Interestingly, the CX-5 is an old car. Mazda has been really smart with their cars. They generally pass on the periodic ground up redesigns as long as what they are offering sells well. Instead, they fine tune (if needed) what is already a success. There hasn't been a single recall for the 2024 CX-5 (as of now). Another really cool thing is that all CX-5s are built in Japan. I like it so much that I may end up with one, too.View attachment 94625
Great, and thanks for the info on AAA buying. I forget about that. Costco is supposed to have a good program as well. Mazdas have been part of our family for a loooong time, both a MPV and a Mazda3. We sold the MPV @ 150k miles, and Firstborn is still driving the Mazda3 with 137k right now.
 
My riding buddy Travis had a deposit on a Cyber Truck but when they told him they were ready for him to order it was a at more than he was wanting to pay. So he shows up to a ride meet up in this.
Bought it used. One year old. It is kind of ugly but not as bad as the Cyber.
I didn’t ask him what he paid.
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My riding buddy Travis had a deposit on a Cyber Truck but when they told him they were ready for him to order it was a at more than he was wanting to pay. So he shows up to a ride meet up in this.
Bought it used. One year old. It is kind of ugly but not as bad as the Cyber.
I didn’t ask him what he paid.
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The pass through is kind a cool idea. The opening folds down into a step and doubles as a chair.
 
Echoing AKAKTM, that bed is short.
I could see something like this potentially working for me.
Not that I can afford $100k not can I charge at home.
The looks have grown on me. All of the little packing and carrying options are cool.
I think you can find a used R1 for +/- 60-ish.

Johnny Gaudreau died in a cycling accident yesterday. He and his brother got run over by a hasty motorist, as if the adjective is necessary….and they were supposed to be groomsmen in their sister’s wedding today.

Duck automobiles. They quack!
Jesus, f'n suspect drunk driver. I think we really need to separate the two kinds of transportation entirely.
I don't hate cars, but, I'd rather use any other kind of transportation than driving. Except buses, F@ck buses.
 
Johnny Gaudreau died in a cycling accident yesterday. He and his brother got run over by a hasty motorist, as if the adjective is necessary….and they were supposed to be groomsmen in their sister’s wedding today.

Duck automobiles. They quack!
So sorry to hear about your friend Johnny and his Brother. :( . Hope the brother heals quick.
I've had some very close calls, and try my best to avoid as much road as possible, but can't avoid it all.
 
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So sorry to hear about your friend Johnny and his Brother. :( . Hope the brother heals quick.
I've had some very close calls, and try my best to avoid as much road as possible, but can't avoid it all.
Johnny didn't know I exist, so we weren't friends, but I cheered for him even when he played against the Kings and Ducks. His brother, Matthew Gaudreau, also perished.

You and I have had more close calls than we know considering the number of motorists that pass us on each ride. A select few drivers like to express themselves by revving the engine, rolling coal, or merging into the bike lane after passing just to inform us they prefer we do not exist. Well now...Since there isn't a 2nd Amendment (or any amendment) giving us the freedom to drive motor vehicles, perhaps there's a better chance to restrict them. I told Vice Principal Mr. Delgadillo this morning that schools should have a mile-wide buffer proximally prohibiting passenger vehicles. It would never work since other land uses within the buffer would be adversely affected, but let's let that fact sink in for some perspective. "What's good for GM is good for America." Horse :poop:.
 
So, I can't scroll through the 2,632 posts in this thread to see if something like was already posted in the past. Just thought that an interesting topic would be a list of all the vehicles you have owned in your lifetime, along with basic data, and any facts about them that others may or may not find interesting. Feel like I have a relatively short list compared to most people I've known throughout my lifetime. Anyway, here's my list:

1970 Dodge Charger 500, 318 V8, 3-Speed Automatic. All original. Pretty sweet first car. Was decently quick with the small block and a two-barrel carb that was rated 230 HP stock. Pretty big car, but a fairly light tin can.

1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, Rocket 350 V8, 3-Speed Automatic. Quite a boat, but it was fast with 310 HP stock. All original. Think it even had A/C if I remember correctly. More than a decade passed before I owned another car with A/C.

1967 Ford Mustang Coupe, 302 V8, 4-Speed Manual. Not at all original. Came original with a 200 Inline 6 and a 3-Speed Manual. Replaced it with the 302 V8 and a Borg-Warner T-10 4-Speed Manual. Required a custom driveshaft, since the Borg-Warner transmission was longer than the Toploader that would've been original equipment. Fun car!

1985-1/2 Ford Escort L, 1.9L CVH, 4-Speed Manual. My first brand new car purchase. Needed something reliable that got good gas mileage, since I had just taken a new job with a 65-mile commute in Boston traffic. Great car that was surprisingly peppy and fun to drive. It got totaled when my girlfriend accidentally drove it off the road into the woods at high speed at around 3:00 AM in the morning on her birthday. Amazing that we both survived. She had a complicated break in her left arm that totally dislocated her elbow. Took surgery and hardware to fix that. I smashed my head into the windshield and ended up with a lifelong seizure disorder due to that. The car was beyond totaled, with the driver's side front quarter including the wheel and suspension completely torn off and separated from the rest of the wreck. Rest of the car was completely misshaped like someone tried to fold it in half. I remember that we snapped a telephone pole before shooting off into the woods. Of course, neither of us were wearing seatbelts at the time. Last time I ever rode in a car without wearing a seatbelt.

1986 Ford Mustang LX Hatchback, 5.0L V8, 5-Speed Manual, 3:08 gears. Pretty original other than a set of Saleen wheels, a short-throw Hurst shifter, an amazing aftermarket sound system, and the usual external engine mods of the time, like pully kit, fuel regulation overrides, K&N filters, etc., plus super sticky aftermarket Yokohama tires with some silly treadwear rating of like 40. My street racing car, with occasional visits to the track. Nothing amazing by today's standards, but that car would run consistent low to mid 13s in the quarter mile. Even got some 13 flats on the drag strip. Raced many Buick Grand Nationals back in those days. It's the car I moved to California with.

1993 Toyota Tercel DX Coupe, Standard 4-Banger, 5-Speed Manual. This was mainly my girlfriend's car, but we bought it together. I remember buying it at the dealership in North Hollywood. Had a price in mind, and wasn't budging on it. As the game goes, the salesperson told us that was impossible and had many private conversations with the "manager" before settling on our offered price. Who knows if we actually got a great deal, but it felt like we did. No complaints about that car. Nothing exciting about it. I never took it on any long road trips, so don't have much data to offer an opinion on its performance. It was just used as an around town car.

1996 Honda Civic DX Coupe, Standard 4-Banger, 5-Speed Manual. I just needed a new reliable, fuel-efficient car at the time. Served its purpose. No complaints other than I thought that it was rather underpowered. Couldn't hold highway speed on hilly terrain with the A/C on.

2001 Mazda Protege5, 2.0L DOHC, 5-Speed Manual. Such a great car! Really nice looking. Plenty of power. Handled great. Never had any issues with it. Actually, went shopping for it on 9/11. I knew what was going on, but showed up to work anyway. Well, turns out I was the only person to show up, so I left very early. Buying a new car was on my to-do list, so got it done on that sad day. Only car that I ever leased. Wasn't intending to do that, but somehow got talked into it. Last time I'll do that, not that it was a bad experience or deal, but I didn't like the pressure of keeping the car in perfect condition.

2004 VW Touareg AWD with Hi-Lo Ranges and Locking Rear Differential, 3.6L VR6, 6-Speed Automatic. This was mainly my wife's vehicle, but we bought it together. Super offroad-worthy, luxury SUV. Very attractive design, lines, and blue paint color. Really comfortable with beautiful interior design and features. We kept this vehicle until 2020, and took it on countless MTB road trips. Could fit two mountain bikes inside, along with all the luggage, gear, etc. that you could need for a month-long trip. Great driving car with plenty of power. Really loved it. It just started to feel like a ticking time bomb as the miles racked up and extended warranty expired. Very expensive vehicle to maintain and repair. Also, a gas guzzler.

2004 Mazda 3, 2.3L I-4, 5-Speed Manual. What can I say, another great Mazda offering. Much like the Protege5, but with a little more power and even better handling. I still think that the Protege5 is a better looking car, though, but had to trade in my lease on that. Bought the Mazda 3 outright, and should've kept it longer than I did.

2007 Nissan Murano SE AWD, 3.5L V6, CVT. Comfortable. Good power and handling. Never had any issues with the CVT transmission. Opted for the Bose sound system upgrade, which had good sound, Sirius/XM integration, and a six-disc CD changer, but why the heck did it also have a cassette player instead of an auxiliary input of any kind, in 2007? Had to plug a USB adapter into one of the 12V power outlets to charge a phone. Another gas guzzler. Not great in the wet, even with AWD. Vehicle never completely won me over. I ended up gifting it to my niece when she was moving to Montana for college. She didn't keep it for very long before selling it and buying an older Toyota pickup truck that more suited her sporty, outdoorsy, mountain girl persona and lifestyle.

2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited 4WD, 3.2L V6, 9-Speed Automatic. Inherited this vehicle when my dad passed away in 2020. Flew out to Massachusetts to deal with all that comes with that, since he lived alone in an apartment. Drove the Jeep back to Arizona, and it replaced the Nissan Murano. No complaints about it. It gets amazingly good gas mileage for a vehicle of its kind. Nice to have an offroad-worthy 2nd vehicle in the household, since our other current vehicle is a minivan - see below.

2020 Chrysler Pacifica Limited with S-Package, 3.6L V6 24V VVT, 9-Speed Automatic. Bought this to replace the VW Touareg that we kept for 16 years. Needed a vehicle suitable for MTB road trips, and a minivan made the most sense to me. My wife was not in agreement at first, but she finally saw the light. First completely loaded vehicle I've ever owned, with every possible upgrade option/package available. Super comfortable, quiet, great driving vehicle. Lots of power, with excellent handling. Like the Jeep, it get's incredibly good gas mileage for such a bulky, heavy vehicle. Easy to mount two bikes inside with loads of extra space. Can load up everything needed for a two-month or longer road trip, and it's not like trying to put together a puzzle when packing/unpacking. Love that the 2nd row seats fold flat into the floor, so no need to manually remove them ever. The 3rd row seat is power-operated and also folds flat. Can easily fit three bikes inside with seating space for three people if need be. Been very happy with it. Only issues have been the USB port that controls Apple Car Play going out twice, and both batteries have had to be replaced, at least one of them twice. All was covered under warranty.

Side Note: I made my first trip back to SoCal in late May/early June of this year. Been away for over four years. Seemed like every third car I saw was a Tesla or Rivian. Don't see that here in Arizona, not even down in the Scottsdale/Paradise Valley area. Just found that interesting.
 
So, I can't scroll through the 2,632 posts in this thread to see if something like was already posted in the past. Just thought that an interesting topic would be a list of all the vehicles you have owned in your lifetime, along with basic data, and any facts about them that others may or may not find interesting. Feel like I have a relatively short list compared to most people I've known throughout my lifetime. Anyway, here's my list:

1970 Dodge Charger 500, 318 V8, 3-Speed Automatic. All original. Pretty sweet first car. Was decently quick with the small block and a two-barrel carb that was rated 230 HP stock. Pretty big car, but a fairly light tin can.

1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, Rocket 350 V8, 3-Speed Automatic. Quite a boat, but it was fast with 310 HP stock. All original. Think it even had A/C if I remember correctly. More than a decade passed before I owned another car with A/C.

1967 Ford Mustang Coupe, 302 V8, 4-Speed Manual. Not at all original. Came original with a 200 Inline 6 and a 3-Speed Manual. Replaced it with the 302 V8 and a Borg-Warner T-10 4-Speed Manual. Required a custom driveshaft, since the Borg-Warner transmission was longer than the Toploader that would've been original equipment. Fun car!

1985-1/2 Ford Escort L, 1.9L CVH, 4-Speed Manual. My first brand new car purchase. Needed something reliable that got good gas mileage, since I had just taken a new job with a 65-mile commute in Boston traffic. Great car that was surprisingly peppy and fun to drive. It got totaled when my girlfriend accidentally drove it off the road into the woods at high speed at around 3:00 AM in the morning on her birthday. Amazing that we both survived. She had a complicated break in her left arm that totally dislocated her elbow. Took surgery and hardware to fix that. I smashed my head into the windshield and ended up with a lifelong seizure disorder due to that. The car was beyond totaled, with the driver's side front quarter including the wheel and suspension completely torn off and separated from the rest of the wreck. Rest of the car was completely misshaped like someone tried to fold it in half. I remember that we snapped a telephone pole before shooting off into the woods. Of course, neither of us were wearing seatbelts at the time. Last time I ever rode in a car without wearing a seatbelt.

1986 Ford Mustang LX Hatchback, 5.0L V8, 5-Speed Manual, 3:08 gears. Pretty original other than a set of Saleen wheels, a short-throw Hurst shifter, an amazing aftermarket sound system, and the usual external engine mods of the time, like pully kit, fuel regulation overrides, K&N filters, etc., plus super sticky aftermarket Yokohama tires with some silly treadwear rating of like 40. My street racing car, with occasional visits to the track. Nothing amazing by today's standards, but that car would run consistent low to mid 13s in the quarter mile. Even got some 13 flats on the drag strip. Raced many Buick Grand Nationals back in those days. It's the car I moved to California with.

1993 Toyota Tercel DX Coupe, Standard 4-Banger, 5-Speed Manual. This was mainly my girlfriend's car, but we bought it together. I remember buying it at the dealership in North Hollywood. Had a price in mind, and wasn't budging on it. As the game goes, the salesperson told us that was impossible and had many private conversations with the "manager" before settling on our offered price. Who knows if we actually got a great deal, but it felt like we did. No complaints about that car. Nothing exciting about it. I never took it on any long road trips, so don't have much data to offer an opinion on its performance. It was just used as an around town car.

1996 Honda Civic DX Coupe, Standard 4-Banger, 5-Speed Manual. I just needed a new reliable, fuel-efficient car at the time. Served its purpose. No complaints other than I thought that it was rather underpowered. Couldn't hold highway speed on hilly terrain with the A/C on.

2001 Mazda Protege5, 2.0L DOHC, 5-Speed Manual. Such a great car! Really nice looking. Plenty of power. Handled great. Never had any issues with it. Actually, went shopping for it on 9/11. I knew what was going on, but showed up to work anyway. Well, turns out I was the only person to show up, so I left very early. Buying a new car was on my to-do list, so got it done on that sad day. Only car that I ever leased. Wasn't intending to do that, but somehow got talked into it. Last time I'll do that, not that it was a bad experience or deal, but I didn't like the pressure of keeping the car in perfect condition.

2004 VW Touareg AWD with Hi-Lo Ranges and Locking Rear Differential, 3.6L VR6, 6-Speed Automatic. This was mainly my wife's vehicle, but we bought it together. Super offroad-worthy, luxury SUV. Very attractive design, lines, and blue paint color. Really comfortable with beautiful interior design and features. We kept this vehicle until 2020, and took it on countless MTB road trips. Could fit two mountain bikes inside, along with all the luggage, gear, etc. that you could need for a month-long trip. Great driving car with plenty of power. Really loved it. It just started to feel like a ticking time bomb as the miles racked up and extended warranty expired. Very expensive vehicle to maintain and repair. Also, a gas guzzler.

2004 Mazda 3, 2.3L I-4, 5-Speed Manual. What can I say, another great Mazda offering. Much like the Protege5, but with a little more power and even better handling. I still think that the Protege5 is a better looking car, though, but had to trade in my lease on that. Bought the Mazda 3 outright, and should've kept it longer than I did.

2007 Nissan Murano SE AWD, 3.5L V6, CVT. Comfortable. Good power and handling. Never had any issues with the CVT transmission. Opted for the Bose sound system upgrade, which had good sound, Sirius/XM integration, and a six-disc CD changer, but why the heck did it also have a cassette player instead of an auxiliary input of any kind, in 2007? Had to plug a USB adapter into one of the 12V power outlets to charge a phone. Another gas guzzler. Not great in the wet, even with AWD. Vehicle never completely won me over. I ended up gifting it to my niece when she was moving to Montana for college. She didn't keep it for very long before selling it and buying an older Toyota pickup truck that more suited her sporty, outdoorsy, mountain girl persona and lifestyle.

2015 Jeep Cherokee Limited 4WD, 3.2L V6, 9-Speed Automatic. Inherited this vehicle when my dad passed away in 2020. Flew out to Massachusetts to deal with all that comes with that, since he lived alone in an apartment. Drove the Jeep back to Arizona, and it replaced the Nissan Murano. No complaints about it. It gets amazingly good gas mileage for a vehicle of its kind. Nice to have an offroad-worthy 2nd vehicle in the household, since our other current vehicle is a minivan - see below.

2020 Chrysler Pacifica Limited with S-Package, 3.6L V6 24V VVT, 9-Speed Automatic. Bought this to replace the VW Touareg that we kept for 16 years. Needed a vehicle suitable for MTB road trips, and a minivan made the most sense to me. My wife was not in agreement at first, but she finally saw the light. First completely loaded vehicle I've ever owned, with every possible upgrade option/package available. Super comfortable, quiet, great driving vehicle. Lots of power, with excellent handling. Like the Jeep, it get's incredibly good gas mileage for such a bulky, heavy vehicle. Easy to mount two bikes inside with loads of extra space. Can load up everything needed for a two-month or longer road trip, and it's not like trying to put together a puzzle when packing/unpacking. Love that the 2nd row seats fold flat into the floor, so no need to manually remove them ever. The 3rd row seat is power-operated and also folds flat. Can easily fit three bikes inside with seating space for three people if need be. Been very happy with it. Only issues have been the USB port that controls Apple Car Play going out twice, and both batteries have had to be replaced, at least one of them twice. All was covered under warranty.

Side Note: I made my first trip back to SoCal in late May/early June of this year. Been away for over four years. Seemed like every third car I saw was a Tesla or Rivian. Don't see that here in Arizona, not even down in the Scottsdale/Paradise Valley area. Just found that interesting.

I dunno if I've noted this before, but my 1966 Pontiac Grand Prix (421, 8-bolt hubless rims on 5-bolt drums) pegleg, was frickin' awesome. Power to waste out the glasspacks.

The 1965 Bonneville with the 389 was no slouch either. 21 mpg on the highway (maybe 7 mpg in town :gag:). $350 to buy it, $50 back to me to junk it, no costs in between. :D
 
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Seemed like every third car I saw was a Tesla or Rivian.
Herd mentality,lol
both batteries have had to be replaced
This is the hybrid or plug-in hybrid. How many miles were on it when they needed to be replaced. How many miles do you have on it now? Pretty reliable overall? We have a Toyota sienna, built a convertible bed inside that's removable. Two bikes on the hitch rack and can go inside also if needed. Love it, Toyota reliability.
 

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I dunno if I've noted this before, but my 1966 Pontiac Grand Prix (421, 8-bolt hubless rims on 5-bolt drums) pegleg, was frickin' awesome. Power to waste out the glasspacks.

The 1965 Bonneville with the 389 was no slouch either. 21 mpg on the highway (maybe 7 mpg in town :gag:). $350 to buy it, $50 back to me to junk it, no costs in between. :D
Nice! My friend's older brother had a 1965 Pontiac GTO Post Pillar Coupe. The original 389 Tri-Power had been replaced, although it came with the original intake and carbs in the trunk. It had a 400 with a single four-barrel carb. Muncie M22 Rock Crusher 4-Speed. As I recall, the original 4.11 rear end gears had been replaced with a 4.33 setup. That was a wild car! You could burn out through all four gears, leaving two long strips of tire rubber on the road with three little breaks in each where you powershifted through the gears. Crazy that you could still be burning rubber in fourth gear. That car felt crazy fast, but I'm willing to bet that it probably wouldn't lay down too great of a quarter-mile time on the track. Hard to launch with any sort of street tires available at the time, and you'd be wound out at max RPMs in short order.
 
This is the hybrid or plug-in hybrid. How many miles were on it when they needed to be replaced. How many miles do you have on it now? Pretty reliable overall? We have a Toyota sienna, built a convertible bed inside that's removable. Two bikes on the hitch rack and can go inside also if needed. Love it, Toyota reliability.

The Pacifica is not any sort of hybrid. Can't get a hybrid model with 2nd row seats that fold flat into the floor, which was one of the selling points for me. The batteries that I refer to are just the main and accessory units. Vehicle has power everything, so requires two batteries, both of which see a lot of strain, and they don't make batteries like they used to. Don't remember the mileage when they first needed to be replaced, but like a year and a half max from brand new. Has 48K miles on it now, mainly gained on long road trips. Don't put many miles on it otherwise. It has been very reliable. No issues other than one of the USB ports and the batteries. I always keep one of those portable jump starters in the vehicle, since we're often at some way out trailheads with nobody else around.

That Toyota Sienna is an excellent vehicle, for sure! Probably my 2nd choice for a minivan.
 
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