It's just that the grip damper sweeps from basically no Low speed damping at fully open, to near lockout (with threshold blow off) at the fully closed (clockwise) setting. To get the best mix of low speed damping that resists small rider movements, (such as braking or subtle weight shifts) you need to have some damping going on or it will feel wallowy. The strategy is to use some volume reducers to reduce the initial harshness and then use some LSC damping in tandem to get the fork to resist small movements so it can stay supportive yet supple, and still blow off on bigger and high speed events.
The grip damper (first gen grip found in the performance series and rhythm) are actually quite good. This is evidenced by the newest top tier forks using a highly upgraded yet related damper (grip 2) which was announced last week. This is by no means a perfect damper and by extension, it is by no means a perfect fork. However, I have found that you can achieve roughly the same performance and tuning ability with the oem adjustemnts that you can in say a pike. You can of course do a bit better with an rc2 damper or an upgraded pike... but for double, if not triple the costs.
Don't give up on the rhythm and grip damper. The first few rides I wasn't in love with it, but after some adjustments I am quite pleased with the performance it provides and the relatively minor trade offs I have to make to get that performance out of it.
Ed, when you gonna get a SS? Im gonna go sample my bud’s SS this afternoon.I'm not worthy of the "zilla". Yet.
I already have one.Ed, when you gonna get a SS? Im gonna go sample my buds SS this afternoon.
It's just that the grip damper sweeps from basically no Low speed damping at fully open, to near lockout (with threshold blow off) at the fully closed (clockwise) setting. To get the best mix of low speed damping that resists small rider movements, (such as braking or subtle weight shifts) you need to have some damping going on or it will feel wallowy. The strategy is to use some volume reducers to reduce the initial harshness and then use some LSC damping in tandem to get the fork to resist small movements so it can stay supportive yet supple, and still blow off on bigger and high speed events.
The grip damper (first gen grip found in the performance series and rhythm) are actually quite good. This is evidenced by the newest top tier forks using a highly upgraded yet related damper (grip 2) which was announced last week. This is by no means a perfect damper and by extension, it is by no means a perfect fork. However, I have found that you can achieve roughly the same performance and tuning ability with the oem adjustemnts that you can in say a pike. You can of course do a bit better with an rc2 damper or an upgraded pike... but for double, if not triple the costs.
Don't give up on the rhythm and grip damper. The first few rides I wasn't in love with it, but after some adjustments I am quite pleased with the performance it provides and the relatively minor trade offs I have to make to get that performance out of it.
I think you need to come out for a ride. Soon.
I friggin wish I could man. I just threw my back out again saturday morning (for the third time this month) while putting my underwear on. I was like 75% recovered from the last event I had 3 weeks ago. It's been a month since I've been on the bike. It's been a struggle for me the last month and I hope I will soon be able to put this behind me.
Meanwhile, I shall bide my time by consuming ALL OF THE BIKE RELATED INTERTUBE CONTENT. No but seriously... I'm so bored. I've rebuilt every bike that I own twice and now they are all perfect lol.
Nope. You know what I meant.
I was spent from two pedally type rides today so I didnt have the gas to do a lil trail ride sampler on my friend’s SS. What I did do for the ride I posted above is match his SS cadence as best I could by choosing and sticking with the closest gearing on my drivetrain to his 32x21. I rode his tail almost the entire time and around the last mile, my bad knee starting hurting so we finished at a good time for me.
SS interests me, thats all I can say at this point.
I was spent from two pedally type rides today so I didnt have the gas to do a lil trail ride sampler on my friend’s SS. What I did do for the ride I posted above is match his SS cadence as best I could by choosing and sticking with the closest gearing on my drivetrain to his 32x21. I rode his tail almost the entire time and around the last mile, my bad knee starting hurting so we finished at a good time for me.
SS interests me, thats all I can say at this point.
Mostly flat. Quite a bit of out of the saddle short hills to burst up. Not like So Cal. No sustained climbing.Fantasy Island is almost completely flat, no?
Mostly flat. No long distance climbs. Quite a bit of out of the saddle short hills to burst up. Not like So Cal. No sustained climbing.
Staying with him on the flats was no different than pushing it a little.That is why matching the SS cadence was not to difficult. It definitely changes when you have to start climbing.
But I'm glad you are intrigued.
I'ma tiredSuz was pretty much done at the bottom of Peralta, but with a small nudge she did one extra climb up Oak.
I just threw my back out again saturday morning (for the third time this month) while putting my underwear on.
Did you, yes?