Guerilla Gravity

Absolutely beautiful. Congrats! Can't wait to see it in person, and glad to hear that you're stoked on it.

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Danimal said:
Yeah, @Grego nailed it, Happy boy!

After almost 6 months of waiting the Brown Summer Santa finally delivered my new steed. A Carbon Guerrilla Gravity Trail Pistol, with Red Hot zoom decals and certainly more bells and whistles than I deserve. Really must say in all that time I almost canceled a couple times, made a few changes in the parts spec, went from Trial Pistol to Pistola and back, then finally figured WTH stay the Tail Pistol spec.

I chose the Rockshox squishy parts this time around. Have had enough issues with FOX figured I'd give it a shot. With a 130 Pike upfront I can change to 140 with a simple airshaft, I like that!

They shipped it with the newest Shimano 8120 XT 4 piston brakes, which was a pleasant surprise as the brakes only came out a few days before they finished the bike. :thumbsup: And drivetrain, Shimano 12 speed! so guess I'm the Beta tester now :).

First impressions were this bike looks really nice, but big! After tweaking everything to fit, it's good, no to big for sure. Hopped on for a spin around the parking lot. oohhhh...this is fast. :sneaky:

Hit my old faithful whiting for first run early the next morning. Yep, bikes quick. Feels good, and the Rekon 29 2.4s have traction for days......
Suspension was set up as they recommended for sag, and I set all the adjustments to middle positions as a starting point. Fork feels great, probably the best I can ever remember having. Rear is was nice but a little pop-ish compared to my 150 travel 27.5 which was expected. I worked on the rebound today and it felt really good after some adjustment. Only in Crush mode so far, will try Plush after I do a few rides.

The bars are 780, I'm coming from 720. All the bikes from size 1-4 come with 780s o_O which is odd I think.
I will ride the them for a while to get a feel, but most likely will cut to 750/760.

The bike this is replacing is just over 5 years old now, and like used cars with 150k on the odometer, it works but is a little tired. So now a new bike is like a new sports car. It works, feels tight, new and will take just a little getting used to.
I'm extremely satisfied, and am looking forward to riding this Pistol into the ground! Damn...it likes to go fast!

And @herzalot the T-shirt was only $2200.00 :whistling:

#RideGG :thumbsup:

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That was a long gestational period... congratulations on the delivery!
 
Danimal said:
Yeah, @Grego nailed it, Happy boy!

After almost 6 months of waiting the Brown Summer Santa finally delivered my new steed. A Carbon Guerrilla Gravity Trail Pistol, with Red Hot zoom decals and certainly more bells and whistles than I deserve. Really must say in all that time I almost canceled a couple times, made a few changes in the parts spec, went from Trial Pistol to Pistola and back, then finally figured WTH stay the Tail Pistol spec.

I chose the Rockshox squishy parts this time around. Have had enough issues with FOX figured I'd give it a shot. With a 130 Pike upfront I can change to 140 with a simple airshaft, I like that!

They shipped it with the newest Shimano 8120 XT 4 piston brakes, which was a pleasant surprise as the brakes only came out a few days before they finished the bike. :thumbsup: And drivetrain, Shimano 12 speed! so guess I'm the Beta tester now :).

First impressions were this bike looks really nice, but big! After tweaking everything to fit, it's good, no to big for sure. Hopped on for a spin around the parking lot. oohhhh...this is fast. :sneaky:

Hit my old faithful whiting for first run early the next morning. Yep, bikes quick. Feels good, and the Rekon 29 2.4s have traction for days......
Suspension was set up as they recommended for sag, and I set all the adjustments to middle positions as a starting point. Fork feels great, probably the best I can ever remember having. Rear is was nice but a little pop-ish compared to my 150 travel 27.5 which was expected. I worked on the rebound today and it felt really good after some adjustment. Only in Crush mode so far, will try Plush after I do a few rides.

The bars are 780, I'm coming from 720. All the bikes from size 1-4 come with 780s o_O which is odd I think.
I will ride the them for a while to get a feel, but most likely will cut to 750/760.

The bike this is replacing is just over 5 years old now, and like used cars with 150k on the odometer, it works but is a little tired. So now a new bike is like a new sports car. It works, feels tight, new and will take just a little getting used to.
I'm extremely satisfied, and am looking forward to riding this Pistol into the ground! Damn...it likes to go fast!

And @herzalot the T-shirt was only $2200.00 :whistling:

#RideGG :thumbsup:

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Congrats, Dan! Thanks for the run down and pics. Next up...scratches :sneaky::thumbsup:
 
After 4 rides on the GG, interesting what happens in that short amount of time.

Bike is a couple inches longer, need to get used to that. Especially on the switchbacks.

Hopped on my Rocky Mountain, and the 720 width bars seemed sooooo skinny now....:laugh:....think I'm still going to cut the 780s, but just a tad.

I really like the Shimano 12 speed :thumbsup:, shifts great and is smoother than the SRAM. But the 51 granny seems just too low for a 30 chainring. Probably switch to a 32 up front. I'll make that decision this weekend after climbing to Old Camp.
 
Danimal said:
After 4 rides on the GG, interesting what happens in that short amount of time.

Bike is a couple inches longer, need to get used to that. Especially on the switchbacks.

Hopped on my Rocky Mountain, and the 720 width bars seemed sooooo skinny now....:laugh:....think I'm still going to cut the 780s, but just a tad.

I really like the Shimano 12 speed :thumbsup:, shifts great and is smoother than the SRAM. But the 51 granny seems just too low for a 30 chainring. Probably switch to a 32 up front. I'll make that decision this weekend after climbing to Old Camp.
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Climb out of Old Camp, then decide. :eek:
 
Danimal said:
I really like the Shimano 12 speed :thumbsup:, shifts great and is smoother than the SRAM. But the 51 granny seems just too low for a 30 chainring. Probably switch to a 32 up front. I'll make that decision this weekend after climbing to Old Camp.
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I think the idea behind the massive 50+ tooth rear was to help extend the top end range by using a bigger chainring. I've got a 30 cranking my 42 and that's plenty low for most things - Willow, Mathis, Cholla, etc. Maybe not low enough for Dreaded - never tried, probably never will.

A 30 driving a 51 is stupid low - like climbing a refrigerator door low. Go to a 32 up front at least. Do you have Race Face Cranks?
 
Danimal said:
After 4 rides on the GG, interesting what happens in that short amount of time.

Bike is a couple inches longer, need to get used to that. Especially on the switchbacks.

Hopped on my Rocky Mountain, and the 720 width bars seemed sooooo skinny now....:laugh:....think I'm still going to cut the 780s, but just a tad.

I really like the Shimano 12 speed :thumbsup:, shifts great and is smoother than the SRAM. But the 51 granny seems just too low for a 30 chainring. Probably switch to a 32 up front. I'll make that decision this weekend after climbing to Old Camp.
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I would leave that 51 tooth as a rescue gear only. Don't even consider it as being there unless you are climbing a wall. I agree that the super low combo is a bit odd but wait until you see what it does for you when you actually need it. Think of it like this, your drivetrain is an 11 speed with a rescue gear.
 
herzalot said:
I think the idea behind the massive 50+ tooth rear was to help extend the top end range by using a bigger chainring. I've got a 30 cranking my 42 and that's plenty low for most things - Willow, Mathis, Cholla, etc. Maybe not low enough for Dreaded - never tried, probably never will.

A 30 driving a 51 is stupid low - like climbing a refrigerator door low. Go to a 32 up front at least. Do you have Race Face Cranks?
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Yeah, the 30 x 42 with 27.5s very seldom got used. So a 30x51 with 29" wheels is pretty darn low.

I have e13 direct mount cranks. I don't know if uses the same Chainring as the Race Face but if it does opens options for sure.

@SnakeCharmer , yep that's a thought. Figure do some climbing this weekend and see. But a 32 would give me more top end! I dunno.....have to see.
 
herzalot said:
I think the idea behind the massive 50+ tooth rear was to help extend the top end range by using a bigger chainring. I've got a 30 cranking my 42 and that's plenty low for most things - Willow, Mathis, Cholla, etc. Maybe not low enough for Dreaded - never tried, probably never will.

A 30 driving a 51 is stupid low - like climbing a refrigerator door low. Go to a 32 up front at least. Do you have Race Face Cranks?
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With a 51t cog....34t is the way to go.

The 34/50 combo was really low. 34/42 was rough from time to time.
 
DangerDirtyD said:
Can ya’ll recommend a good side-load water bottle cage for a metal smash?

Thanks!
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I got mine from GG. Not sure what brand it is, but it has met all expectation and was not too spendy IIRC. It's reversible. Ping Jubal and the lads? :)


PS: Mine looks like this one:

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I see a few different branded versions of it which appear to all be this exact cage.
 
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This may or may not help for @DDD, but for anyone that wants to use a Podium on a Revved frame the 21oz version with the standard issue side entry Bontrager fits like a glove. I originally ordered the Lezyne, not realizing it was more of a side angle entry than actual side entry. I was easily able to shake a full water bottle out of it holding it like it would be when suspended from a Revved top tube, and I feel confident I'd have quickly jettisoned a bottle when riding.

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buggravy said:
This may or may not help for @DDD, but for anyone that wants to use a Podium on a Revved frame the 21oz version with the standard issue side entry Bontrager fits like a glove. I originally ordered the Lezyne, not realizing it was more of a side angle entry than actual side entry. I was easily able to shake a full water bottle out of it holding it like it would be when suspended from a Revved top tube, and I feel confident I'd have quickly jettisoned a bottle when riding.

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Thanks for that, Matt. Do you think any cage will securely hold a larger bottle like the one you show?

Depletion training may be the answer... :geek::cool:
 
buggravy said:
This may or may not help for @DDD, but for anyone that wants to use a Podium on a Revved frame the 21oz version with the standard issue side entry Bontrager fits like a glove. I originally ordered the Lezyne, not realizing it was more of a side angle entry than actual side entry. I was easily able to shake a full water bottle out of it holding it like it would be when suspended from a Revved top tube, and I feel confident I'd have quickly jettisoned a bottle when riding.

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Thanks Bug! I ordered the Zefal as shown (but not sold a la carte) on the GG website via amazon per @Danimal’s suggestion. It should arrive soon. If it does not work for me, i’ll look at the bonty cages next. The mount on the ‘18 smashed SquiggleBug orients the cage upright on the down-tube, rather than upside down on the top-tube as seen on your revved pistola.
 
mike said:
Thanks for that, Matt. Do you think any cage will securely hold a larger bottle like the one you show?

Depletion training may be the answer... :geek::cool:
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It held just fine today. Some may put it through tougher paces than me, but I had one ejection moment today (me, not the bottle) where the bike ended up laying on the same side that the bottle would theoretically eject from, and it held. I'm gonna call it good until it shows me otherwise.
 
Now that I've got a few weeks on the Trial Pistol, I think this bike really suits me. For the few things I was going to change initially...

The bars at 780mm I'll keep as is. Now that I'm used to them they really are nice and not too wide.

For the chainring, it actually came with a 32, not the 30 I thought. Even at 32 I think it could be too low but works. Haven't used the granny but for a minute ( it's just too low and slow), and even climbing mustard and STT I'm typically in 3rd and often 4th gear. Still might go to 34...

The Pike fork, most I could get on travel is apx 100mm of the 130. The fork truly feels great on most trails, better than any fox I can recall.
But as soon as the trail get rougher, like the Luge, it ramps up and ain't fun. So took a spacer out of the fork. Now it feels pretty good, but not much more travel, maybe 105mm. I'll hit the Luge this weekend and see how it does.
Question, is it OK to remove all the air spacers from the fork? there's one left.

Rekons are awesome tires. Now that the trails are getting looser, might be best to get something with more grip, but these things rock!

I'm getting PRs on segments that I haven't had PRs on since 2015. Now that i'm used to it I just love this GGTP! Rear is a little poppy, and that's with the rebound slow. Might be better with the Pistola shock, but I've adjusted to it and love the climbing ability. Point it DownHill and it just goes....!
Guerilla Gravity !! :inlove:
 
Danimal said:
Now that I've got a few weeks on the Trial Pistol, I think this bike really suits me. For the few things I was going to change initially...

The bars at 780mm I'll keep as is. Now that I'm used to them they really are nice and not too wide.

For the chainring, it actually came with a 32, not the 30 I thought. Even at 32 I think it could be too low but works. Haven't used the granny but for a minute ( it's just too low and slow), and even climbing mustard and STT I'm typically in 3rd and often 4th gear. Still might go to 34...

The Pike fork, most I could get on travel is apx 100mm of the 130. The fork truly feels great on most trails, better than any fox I can recall.
But as soon as the trail get rougher, like the Luge, it ramps up and ain't fun. So took a spacer out of the fork. Now it feels pretty good, but not much more travel, maybe 105mm. I'll hit the Luge this weekend and see how it does.
Question, is it OK to remove all the air spacers from the fork? there's one left.

Rekons are awesome tires. Now that the trails are getting looser, might be best to get something with more grip, but these things rock!

I'm getting PRs on segments that I haven't had PRs on since 2015. Now that i'm used to it I just love this GGTP! Rear is a little poppy, and that's with the rebound slow. Might be better with the Pistola shock, but I've adjusted to it and love the climbing ability. Point it DownHill and it just goes....!
Guerilla Gravity !! :inlove:
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Nice, glad to hear you're vibing with it so well! I really couldn't be more stoked on mine either.
 
Danimal said:
Now that I've got a few weeks on the Trial Pistol, I think this bike really suits me. For the few things I was going to change initially...

The bars at 780mm I'll keep as is. Now that I'm used to them they really are nice and not too wide.

For the chainring, it actually came with a 32, not the 30 I thought. Even at 32 I think it could be too low but works. Haven't used the granny but for a minute ( it's just too low and slow), and even climbing mustard and STT I'm typically in 3rd and often 4th gear. Still might go to 34...

The Pike fork, most I could get on travel is apx 100mm of the 130. The fork truly feels great on most trails, better than any fox I can recall.
But as soon as the trail get rougher, like the Luge, it ramps up and ain't fun. So took a spacer out of the fork. Now it feels pretty good, but not much more travel, maybe 105mm. I'll hit the Luge this weekend and see how it does.
Question, is it OK to remove all the air spacers from the fork? there's one left.

Rekons are awesome tires. Now that the trails are getting looser, might be best to get something with more grip, but these things rock!

I'm getting PRs on segments that I haven't had PRs on since 2015. Now that i'm used to it I just love this GGTP! Rear is a little poppy, and that's with the rebound slow. Might be better with the Pistola shock, but I've adjusted to it and love the climbing ability. Point it DownHill and it just goes....!
Guerilla Gravity !! :inlove:
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TFPU, Dan. Great to hear! :thumbsup:

Your Pike feels like mine; down to one token and just acceptable performance. Can't advise on no tokens but assume do-able.

Satisfied IMTBGG customers appear to outnumber the unsatisfied. :geek:
 
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