Rad-ish hardtails

Radimuses are on sale for $1,500 right now: http://shop.vassagocycles.com/Radimus-Ti-Frame_p_299.html

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Grego said:
Yeah but I have one already.

Strange thing the Vassago site posted new geo coming for the Optimus earlier in 2020. Finally just recently the geo was posted, then taken down.o_O The numbers did look very close to a Radimus, which has me thinking new Radimus in the near future? Fingers crossed.
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I would expect a slacking of the HTA on a renewed Radimus. Probably 65ish degrees. That's where many of the others have headed.
 
Faust29 said:
And... Salsa updates the Timberjack. 66ish degree head angle, steeper seat tube angle, lots of mount options, adjustable dropouts, interesting top tube mounts, etc... aluminum for now.

Salsa Timberjack (link to Salsa blog...)

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I have been looking into one of these, I want to get a 29er hardtail, and Trek and Specialized don't have anything I would like. I could easily strip down my Kona and use most of the parts on the Salsa. I could keep it a 27.5 till I got all the 29er parts.
 
Faust29 said:
And... Salsa updates the Timberjack. 66ish degree head angle, steeper seat tube angle, lots of mount options, adjustable dropouts, interesting top tube mounts, etc... aluminum for now.

Salsa Timberjack (link to Salsa blog...)

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It looks like a good direction overall, but 66.4° with a 150 sounds wrong to me. Bragging about your bikepacking offering having lower rear rack attachment points and not upper is kind of weird. Anyone can add a Axiom or similar seat collar (and Tubus seat stay attachment points for lower) if they want to rack a HT. A core bikepacker will have external, bolt-on routing inside the tri for a strapless frame bag or more accessories. They used my third favorite metal, but even ti isn't going to pitch my tent over this one. Mild Salsa.

While the 66.4° headtube angle may seem slack for a hardtail... It seems slack if you live in a Salsa bubble.
 
mike said:
It looks like a good direction overall, but 66.4° with a 150 sounds wrong to me. Bragging about your bikepacking offering having lower rear rack attachment points and not upper is kind of weird. Anyone can add a Axiom or similar seat collar (and Tubus seat stay attachment points for lower) if they want to rack a HT. A core bikepacker will have external, bolt-on routing inside the tri for a strapless frame bag or more accessories. They used my third favorite metal, but even ti isn't going to pitch my tent over this one. Mild Salsa.

While the 66.4° headtube angle may seem slack for a hardtail... It seems slack if you live in a Salsa bubble.
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Doesn't Salsa already offer better choices in HT frames for bikepacking? 99% of the riders out there see this frame as a trail shredder but I appreciate your POV, nonetheless.
 
SnakeCharmer said:
Doesn't Salsa already offer better choices in HT frames for bikepacking? 99% of the riders out there see this frame as a trail shredder but I appreciate your POV, nonetheless.
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I think “adventure” biking kind of runs through the the brand, or at least it has. How or if that applies to different models seems to be evolving. It seems somewhat token on the TJ. A bolt-on TT bag is kind of a joke. Let’s see if they update the frame bags. My guess is they won’t because the tri shrunk, people like b-rad type bolt-on gadgets and they have overstocked Anything Cages to unload. The cage triple bosses needs to be under the downtube.

Bikepacking happens with wildly varying terrain, timelines and styles, so the right bike and setup is so all over that the term is somewhat meaningless as it applies to bikes. A shredder that’s comfortable to pedal can make a sweet bikepacker on even partly shreddy terrain.
 
mike said:
I think “adventure” biking kind of runs through the the brand, or at least it has. How or if that applies to different models seems to be evolving. It seems somewhat token on the TJ. A bolt-on TT bag is kind of a joke. Let’s see if they update the frame bags. My guess is they won’t because the tri shrunk, people like b-rad type bolt-on gadgets and they have overstocked Anything Cages to unload. The cage triple bosses needs to be under the downtube.

Bikepacking happens with wildly varying terrain, timelines and styles, so the right bike and setup is so all over that the term is somewhat meaningless as it applies to bikes. A shredder that’s comfortable to pedal can make a sweet bikepacker on even partly shreddy terrain.
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Yep, I'm thinking the new TJ isn't going to be a popular adventure bike due to the short height of the front triangle. Someone will make bags to fit it and someone will do some adventuring on it but it's clearly not the best choice.
 
SnakeCharmer said:
Yep, I'm thinking the new TJ isn't going to be a popular adventure bike due to the short height of the front triangle. Someone will make bags to fit it and someone will do some adventuring on it but it's clearly not the best choice.
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I would take more issue with the frame material than the triangle size, but point taken. All said, I would think the TJ is a more fun ride with a 130-140 fork than the previous iteration.
 
Faust29 said:
That's just for show! You don't even have it listed in your signature. :p
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It's actually my wife's bike, but I pretty much confiscated both her rigs (the Bonanza and a Trek Rumblefish) and dialed them to my liking since she got pregnant with our first child. This one has lived at Mother-in-law's, mostly relegated to Arroyo Trabuco and the Ladera Ranch Circuit, but it will be coming home soon for some jaunts at Marshall Canyon and probably Bonelli.
 
DangerDirtyD said:
Y’all with your through axles and tapered head tubes and dropper posts and head angles in the 60s and fancy 650b or 29er wheels are cheating!

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This one gets rad!
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REI bikes, My Frankenbike is a Novara. It is the one I put Panniers on. I use is on long business trips to the flat lands. The bike is older, before they invented formed drop tubes
 
mike said:
It looks like a good direction overall, but 66.4° with a 150 sounds wrong to me. Bragging about your bikepacking offering having lower rear rack attachment points and not upper is kind of weird. Anyone can add a Axiom or similar seat collar (and Tubus seat stay attachment points for lower) if they want to rack a HT. A core bikepacker will have external, bolt-on routing inside the tri for a strapless frame bag or more accessories. They used my third favorite metal, but even ti isn't going to pitch my tent over this one. Mild Salsa.

While the 66.4° headtube angle may seem slack for a hardtail... It seems slack if you live in a Salsa bubble.
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The 66.4 angle is with a 130 mm fork.
 
kingaucho said:
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/d/fountain-valley-29-custom-belt-drive/7282959539.html

Who wants a steel hardtail, belt driven SS? I just spoke with the guy who’s selling it, but it’s built for SS specifically and I want the option of slapping gears if I want to. Really cool guy and it was made by a buddy of his who is now a designer/engineer at Felt .
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Based on build kit.....looks to be on the old side....geo is gonna be very outdated.

Not to mention that the description says SID fork....but looks like fork has Reba or Recon on it. Yes, little details like that matter.
 
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