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I consider knucklehead a term of endearment. Well, based on multiple conversations with my parents when I was young.

To be totally honest...
I would not be surprised to experience someone on the side of the trail shooting snot balls, pointing at me, and accusingly suggesting that I have a small penis in the LA basin. Seems natural for the locale...

When I was teaching, that was the one "insult" I could get away with... The kids used to think it was funny. And I was in the south, so it was usually, "Y'all are a bunch of knuckleheads." I redirected many a misbehaving youth with some variant of that phrase... :p
 
Palm Canyon and SART are commonly done as shuttles and I have done both so I am not without sin,
Setting cars for a point-to-point is not what I meant by shuttling. Both of those routes have thousands of feet of climbing. I am referring to taking a big bad bike up the hill by means other than locomotion, so that you can ride down the hill - then doing it again and again in the same day. i.e. DH Shuttle Runs. I am not necessarily advocating the practice, just wondering how many have done it.

And please stop with the "holier than thou" stuff about earning your turns. It's OK to spend a day doing DH runs, and it's a hell of a workout. Not every ride should have to include 4000' of climbing or more to be counted as "official IMTB approved mountain biking." The "I'm better than you" stance that is implied or directly stated is pretty frustrating. I am with you that people shouldn't be doing shuttle runs on popular multi-use multi-directional trails, but doing DH runs on DH trails and DH equipment is not anti-mt. biking, any more than skiing at a ski area without climbing up isn't skiing.
 
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Not trying to start a shitstorm but I blame strava for the braking grooves in some cases (but not all). Seen the racer boys doing that in a effort to beat their times. It's happened to my local haunt, too.
I've been riding the Floop since '89, and braking bumps showed up with full sus, not smart phones. IIRC, when we were all hardtail/full rigid, there were skid ruts instead of braking bumps. And to put it in perspective, horses have been wrecking trails since long before the ancient ones started one leg drifting their klunkers down Mount Tam.

did Dino move out of CA? haven't seen him around in a long time...

Dino is alive and well, enjoying his new road bike, and selling bikes for Ozzie at Fenix. Some of us have been teasing him that 2017 is his mtb sabbatical.
 
And please stop with the "holier than thou" stuff about earning your turns. It's OK to spend a day doing DH runs, and it's a hell of a workout. Not every ride should have to include 4000' of climbing or more to be counted as "official IMTB approved mountain biking." The "I'm better than you" stance that is implied or directly stated is pretty frustrating. I am with you that people shouldn't be doing shuttle runs on popular multi-use multi-directional trails, but doing DH runs on DH trails and DH equipment is not anti-mt. biking, any more than skiing at a ski area without climbing up isn't skiing.
You forgot the part about the difficulty of riding with gravity and chunk. Some just got to stick to their guns, even if they're little. Awwww, cute!
 
STRAVA is an intoxicant for those who use it to compete... Intoxicated people do dumb things.

We need to roll back the clock to no suspension, 7-speed bikes with rim rakes, trying to ride hiking trails. Cateye cyclo-computers for everyone!

Actually, no we don't. I love my uberbikes!

So what were we ranting about again? Oh yeah, lazy, good-for-nothing shuttle monkeys who skid rudely, cut corners and knock people off the trails.

Which brings me to this question - how many of you have shuttled to ride downhill? I have done so repeatedly, but only on trails that one could not possibly ride up. Anyone else? @Cornholio admits to doing so. That makes 2. Anyone else?
Only SJT and from what is now known as ridge park down to Marguerite when I was a kid and my buddy's "house husband," step dad would shuttle us. Damn, that dude had it good.
 
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