Burying The Hatchet

UPSed said:
I love you man....
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Too add, I definitely prefer to keep my political views and religious beliefs to my self. I have several friends from both sides who are really strong in their political views. I had no idea until this election. I'm still friends with them but I no longer follow them on social media. My head isn't buried in the sand but there's enough going on in the world right now.
 
If you think politics get bad on a mountain biking site, just imagine how nasty they get on a bonsai site! Those people are not to be F@cked with! :)

Jokes aside, same issue, different place.

I think as punishment for anyone arguing politics, we should put them in charge and require them to fix whatever problem they are moaning about, and hold them accountable... with special interest lawyers griping about everything they do, and national press hounding them, and political opponents sniffing at their heels hoping they'll mess up, and strangers swearing at their spouse when they go to the super-market. A couple of years of that nonsense and everyone will be back here crying "OMG no more talk about politics!"
 
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herzalot said:
But then - the hardtailers will go off one way, then they will splinter into the SS hardtailers vs the geared hardtailers vs the downcountry pragmatists vs the "overbiked" endurbros. Then a group of emtbikers will "ride" past...

I kid... I hope.

@Mikie thank you for this thread, and I appreciate your desire for a forum with 0 politics and 0 e-bikes, but we are relatively grown men and women. We cannot be isolated from the occasional political jab. As @Cyclotourist mentioned above, some threads are inherently political - most are not. We can choose which to read and which to avoid. I love the idealism, ethic and culture of "politics free" but I don't like the idea of iron-fisted censorship to protect us from ourselves. I don't want to protect my daughter from every discomfort in this world and I have noticed that most of us are capable of handling our disagreements in a mature way. Not always, but the center will hold and the kids will be alright.

(And yes, I throw in some political innuendo from time to time, but I am generally in favor of critical thinking and not polarization.)
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Agree!!! This is why you’re in the education business :inlove::thumbsup:
 
herzalot said:
But then - the hardtailers will go off one way, then they will splinter into the SS hardtailers vs the geared hardtailers vs the downcountry pragmatists vs the "overbiked" endurbros. Then a group of emtbikers will "ride" past...

I kid... I hope.

@Mikie thank you for this thread, and I appreciate your desire for a forum with 0 politics and 0 e-bikes, but we are relatively grown men and women. We cannot be isolated from the occasional political jab. As @Cyclotourist mentioned above, some threads are inherently political - most are not. We can choose which to read and which to avoid. I love the idealism, ethic and culture of "politics free" but I don't like the idea of iron-fisted censorship to protect us from ourselves. I don't want to protect my daughter from every discomfort in this world and I have noticed that most of us are capable of handling our disagreements in a mature way. Not always, but the center will hold and the kids will be alright.

(And yes, I throw in some political innuendo from time to time, but I am generally in favor of critical thinking and not polarization.)
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I saw the Downcountry Pragmatists play at Telluride last year. Good show.

it’s certainly appropriate to try to lower the temperature when it comes to politics. We’ve definitely done our best to try to divide the country. But...

In the situation we’re in, where folks are trying to make everything political, saying that “anything political will be banned” risks being interpreted as “everything will be banned.” So we just need to cut folks a little slack.
 
tick said:
In the situation we’re in, where folks are trying to make everything political, saying that “anything political will be banned” risks being interpreted as “everything will be banned.” So we just need to cut folks a little slack.
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I can sincerely appreciate what you are sharing...
The challenge is subjective verse objective. Seems it would be easier to focus on the objective of no politics, as oppose to the subjective of what is tolerable.
Everyone has their limit, I obviously had mine and blew my lid. I hate censorship, but hey, I really want to stay open minded.
Original imtbtrails plan:
  • Place to escape the world
  • Place to talk all things mountain bike
  • Safe place where people respect each other
  • Grow a grassroots family to belong to
  • Free of Trolls, Spammers (unless we want to make fun of them... I do!), and Subject Nazi’s
 
Mikie said:
I can sincerely appreciate what you are sharing...
The challenge is subjective verse objective. Seems it would be easier to focus on the objective of no politics, as oppose to the subjective of what is tolerable.
Everyone has their limit, I obviously had mine and blew my lid. I hate censorship, but hey, I really want to stay open minded.
Original imtbtrails plan:
  • Place to escape the world
  • Place to talk all things mountain bike
  • Safe place where people respect each other
  • Grow a grassroots family to belong to
  • Free of Trolls, Spammers (unless we want to make fun of them... I do!), and Subject Nazi’s
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Oh fine, so the Grammar Nazis still get free rain.
 
or "free Rainn."

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@Mikie I get it, thanks for the mea culpa, glad you saw your error with the F bombs, yadda yadda.

I'm out until well after the election. I don't really care what anyone else believes in or is voting for, no matter what you may think from some of my posts. More power to all y'all (that is plural for 'y'all' and I don't care what you coasters think).

I enjoy the interaction to a point, and then I have to take my introverted, opinionated self off into a corner and dust off all the people. It's just the way I am. Nothing personal.

It really was awesome to run into @mtnbikej last weekend and @Grego today. Hope to see others out and about.

See you in February or so.
 
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