Personally, I consider SSers to be mashers. You guys are up out of the saddle quite a bit on every ride .Poll doesn't cover single speeds. I do both extremes on the same ride usually...
Personally, I consider SSers to be mashers. You guys are up out of the saddle quite a bit on every ride .
Similar to how I ride but I wouldnt call that mashing. Its somewhere in the middle.Used to be a spinner for sure but I think I’m slowly transforming into a masher. Strava times haven’t changed much but I’m pretty sure spinning slower in a bigger gear keeps my heart rate lower and saves some for the longer days. Not giving up the mega low granny yet though cause pedaling up stupid steep stuff is fun and always beats walking.
Of course, but we climb mountains here so you know what I mean. If we were all out in the Midwest, we'd all be SS spinners.That's the bread and butter of SSing... Pushing stupid hard on the climbs. When it turns flatter, though, we spin like hamsters. Like @mike says above, that's usually the recovery time for SS, moreso than a complete stop break.
Man! This is a great subject. I talk about it often. Going to hold off to see who says what...
Added...Poll doesn't cover single speeds. I do both extremes on the same ride usually...
I mash on the climbs.....spin spin spin on the flats and DH's......on the SS.
I mash on the climbs....mash on the flats and DH's....on the HT.
I've tried to be a small gear spinner....but I couldn't do it. Cannot turn high RPM's.....shoots my heart rate up to quickly and I blow up. However I can mash a big gear all day long.
Well interestingly enough, I consider myself a masher.I've ridden behind you on climbs......with that 400t cog you have on the HT.....you are surely not mashing.
Well interestingly enough, I consider myself a masher.
May be time to define the two better.
Mikie Definitions:
Spinner: A person who typically runs a higher cadence gearing spinning pedals faster as oppose to running taller gears that requires heavier pedal pressure. Cyclist who use clipless pedal that spin often pull up on the backside of their pedal revolution to add additional tourque. Often the counterbalance on the backside pull gives spinners a much smoother pedal cadence with more consistent power applied to the rear wheel. Mikie’s observation is that spinners are typically longer distance riders, run a higher heart rate, and have calf muscles that resemble marathoners.
Mashers: A person who choose taller gears and apply heavier pressure per pedal stroke. If clipped in, they still often pull up on the backside of the pedal stroke but rely heavily on power applied to the front. Mikie’s observation is that Mashers typically drive the pedal via leg muscle as oppose to spinning leverage and pedal speed, have heftier calf muscles more like a weight lifter and do not typically have the distance endurance that spinners can achieve.
All my life I have been a masher wishing to become a spinner. But like J, it elevates my heart rate too much and I blow up.
Interestingly I find bikes can force you one way or the other. For example my Yeti encouraged me to continue to be a masher. It’s now a 1x11 and even still I find it climbs much better if I mash the pedals.
My Hightower is a toad on climbs. Even though it is a 1X12, the plus tires and heavier bike forces me to spin it more then mash it as it will wear me down quickly if I try to ride it like my Yeti, just like J has observed.
My mountain bike trainer was constantly trying to convert me to a spinner in my racing days, but it would exhaust and then blow me up during a race, so I stuck to a combo of heavy pedal and a higher heart rate to do well in the climb sections of races. It seemed my heart rate was okay with intense mashing as oppose to intense spinning. Best I can explain it.
I’m going to build another SS soon just so I can get my mash legs back. Maybe convert the Lizard.......... I bet a few guys around here could help with the conversion ...
Nah.....nobody around these woods except for big travel roadie bikers here.
Not sure I can agree with you here, Boss.Well interestingly enough, I consider myself a masher.
May be time to define the two better.
Mikie Definitions:
Spinner: A person who typically runs a higher cadence gearing spinning pedals faster as oppose to running taller gears that requires heavier pedal pressure. Cyclist who use clipless pedal that spin often pull up on the backside of their pedal revolution to add additional tourque. Often the counterbalance on the backside pull gives spinners a much smoother pedal cadence with more consistent power applied to the rear wheel. Mikie’s observation is that spinners are typically longer distance riders, run a higher heart rate, and have calf muscles that resemble marathoners.
Mashers: A person who choose taller gears and apply heavier pressure per pedal stroke. If clipped in, they still often pull up on the backside of the pedal stroke but rely heavily on power applied to the front. Mikie’s observation is that Mashers typically drive the pedal via leg muscle as oppose to spinning leverage and pedal speed, have heftier calf muscles more like a weight lifter and do not typically have the distance endurance that spinners can achieve.
All my life I have been a masher wishing to become a spinner. But like J, it elevates my heart rate too much and I blow up.
Interestingly I find bikes can force you one way or the other. For example my Yeti encouraged me to continue to be a masher. It’s now a 1x11 and even still I find it climbs much better if I mash the pedals.
My Hightower is a toad on climbs. Even though it is a 1X12, the plus tires and heavier bike forces me to spin it more then mash it as it will wear me down quickly if I try to ride it like my Yeti, just like J has observed.
My mountain bike trainer was constantly trying to convert me to a spinner in my racing days, but it would exhaust and then blow me up during a race, so I stuck to a combo of heavy pedal and a higher heart rate to do well in the climb sections of races. It seemed my heart rate was okay with intense mashing as oppose to intense spinning. Best I can explain it.
I thought that is what I said, just with a lot more words.Interesting.....I've always just considered easy gear / high RPM pedalers spinners. Those pushing big gears / low RPM pedalers mashers.
I think the sarcasm river runs deep here...I can see I’m not welcome here.
Agreed, not in the same boat. Both spinners and mashers get up out of the saddle so I just consider that out of the saddle. I think @mtnbikej best described the two above.Not sure I can agree with you here, Boss.
To me, a spinner is a seated pedaler and a masher is a standing pedaler. Those who pedal a harder gear at a slower cadence while seated are known as PUSHERS.
In the end, there is three types...
To further the definition of a MASHER, the rider is standing and spinning the cranks FAST. Mega-power!
We dont mash potatoes spinning a tool slowly, it spins FAST.