Manzanita 12/2

Maddog

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Hey! I did the ride invite and now I gotta write the report tooo_O?!?!?!?!? I teach PE; I'm not used to having to work that hard:sleep:! I guess I'm ready now. I needed a recovery day yesterday and since I was just lazing around my wife got the great idea to play the Hallmark Christmas Movie Drinking Game that she found online so I was a bit pre-occupied the rest of the day:speechless:! Well, here goes!

@Mikie and @Voodoo Tom responded to my invite to this great but often overlooked trail. After the easy paved part of the ascent came the 2 miles of hellish:devilish: climbing on dirt. I rode most of the 1st mile getting past the 3rd creek crossing but it was HAB for me after that! M and V were in casual cruise mode so I kept them mostly in sight until that point. Fortunately I was able to shorten their wait time for me when a sympathetic family of hikers came driving up in a flat bed truck behind me as I was trudging up the road. They offered to haul my bike and fat a$$ up for the last half mile. Being devoid of all pride and machismo at that juncture, I gratefully accepted saving M and V another 15 minutes of wait time! :thumbsup:

The Santa Ana winds were blowing very hard at Vincent Gap so we decided to head down Manzanita and add the extra credit miles to the end of the trail. The first 50 yards feature a steep left turn then a sharp right into a gully followed by a short steep climb. The gully was washed out but someone has been working on it so there was a lot of soft, dug up dirt that made walking through the gully mandatory. Once the work is done it will be ridable again. Trail work was evident on nearly the entire trail. It may be the Fenner Camp Crew working the trail and they've done a great job!

The rest of the trail traverses hard pack mountain sides, scree fields, rock gardens and even a small creek crossing with a bit of water flowing. I didn't see it happen but one particularly nasty scree chute got Mikie in the knee :( but that was the only injury for the day! There's a couple steep sections with switch backs in between the long, more gradual parts. These have really been improved by the trail workers making them much more fun:)! The final drop to the campground is some of the fastest ST around with some great switchbacks that really sneak up on you! We all pushed the envelope of control carving those turns:cool:!

After that we crossed the dry Big Rock Creek on the High Desert Trail for an out and back towards the Punchbowl. 90% of the trail was totally fun! The other 10% was brutal HAB on narrow, loose, rocky, steep mountain side with a long slide down if you made a slight misstep! The quads were burning on the way up to the Devil's Chair junction with much more to go to get to the Punchbowl. Too much! We were all out of gas! So we started the ride/slide back down the 10%. That descent was precarious anyway but was made more so by a group of 15 hikers heading up:eek:! They were very nice and awestruck at our impressive skills and lack of sound judgement:confused:! Once past the human obstacles the rest was fun and challenging!

It was a great ride with cool guys to ride with! Manzanita and even the HAB parts were worth the pain and suffering but maybe next time I'll minimize that pain with a shuttle from Blue Ridge:thumbsup:!
 
Wow that’s a big ride! I’ve seen that 10% part of the trail which happened in last years storms, and am surprised it hasn’t been worked on yet. At one point a few years back I thought Manz would be lost but now it sounds like things are looking up. Awesome that the hole trail is getting love! Thanks for the report dog.
 
That was a great ride report, but I didn't know PE teachers knew or could use the word "precarious!" (You opened that line of questioning...)

For a guy who starts with a disclaimer about his writing abilities, ya done good! :thumbsup:

Oh, and nice ride too, even if "It's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford, slowing down to give a ride to me..."
 
Bravo @Maddog and thanks again for the invite. Having ridden the usual Wrightwood trails a couple times in the last month or so it was time for something new. Last weekend when @Mikie & I were up there I asked him about Manzanita and he replied “it’s ok but it’s not my favorite trail”. Hmmm, well they can’t all be your favorite so I think I get it. Maddog posts up an invite on what might be the last decent weather weekend till springtime and he’s the ultimate tour guide so I’m in.

So as I was I’m riding home from work Friday evening up the canyon behind the house & get to thinking about a comment @hill^billy made to Mikie about how much fun the trail should be on his Hightower. Just so happens it’s only about a 2 mile detour to my mom & stepdad’s house so guess what I did? Showed up, knocked on the door, told em I was there to hijack the Hightower, explained it was my weekend for visitation, swapped pedals off my Pivot and was gone in about 10 minutes. This proved to be a wise choice and I’ll keep exercising this option till I sell some stuff and get my own or he caves and puts a bow on the bars and gives it to me.:Roflmao

Maddog’s invite was a perfect description of what was to come. Three not fun miles of blacktop climbing followed by two miles of hideous fireroad climbing to get to the goods. Blacktop was fine especially without cars aiming for us. Fire road climb was just ridiculously steep. Pedaled the whole way up it but I definitely owe thanks to Mikie for setting the pace and the Sram eagle drivetrain on the hightower for the granny gears. Maddog showing up on the back of a flatbed was just damn funny.

Once descending Manzanita it was pure bliss & loose sketchy hillside that was just waiting for you to let your guard down. Haha trail I was paying full attention this time cuzz I’ve had enough of this bailing off my bike crap lately. Poor @Mikie, I make this poor guy lead me down every unknown to me trail in the west. My plan is usually to see what he does and what happens and adjust from there. Usually he makes the tech look easy and then I come along and prove him wrong. Well this time he goes hard braking/sliding down a drop in to some chunky creekbed and can’t get unclipped before going down and slamming in to the biggest boulder with his knee. Stupid rocks don't give though. From my view this hurt as it was a sudden stop with a thud. Very lucky he didn’t smack his face or head cuzz it could have easily happened. Normal people would lay on the ground floundering and pissing and moaning but not Mikie. He bounced up and kept moving before I even had a chance to run him over. I wisely unclipped and walked a few feet of trail here after seeing what happened. The rest of the ups and downs till south fork campground were uneventful as we all took turns showing off our skills and talking smack.

From here we could coast back to the cars and call it a day but we all needed that little something else so we decided to head over to the plateau above devils chair. Me being the dumb bastard I am had no idea what that was or what I was getting in to. The first 1/4 mile or so involved lots of quality hiking with your bike and trying not to slip and fall to your certain death not to mention kinda dragging your bike on the low side. Once past the shear drops it was safer to ride your bike so thats what we did till we hit the bottom of the climb up to the devils chair. This has to be just about the most ridiculous hike a bike known to man. Roughly 1/2 mile long and I think about 100 yards of it are rideable going uphill. Lucky for us this is where we past the large group of hikers going thru some chunk and we navigated it like true rockstars. So well that the peanut gallery was shouting out that we were “legends”. Shortly after this we proceeded to push & shove & drag our bikes to the top of the ridge.

From here we took a break which seemed to last for an eternity. We were trying to be cautious to the hikers we knew were coming up but finally grew tired of waiting and decided to just see what happens. Much to my surprise the drop like a rock descent was mostly rideable and kinda fun. We meet the group of 15-200 hikers right at the highest switchback section of trail. Our fearless leader Mikie decided to show off and clean a nasty switchback while they stood there in awe. Me, well I just walked it and made fun of myself which seemed to be just as entertaining to the peanut gallery. After this it was just more sketchy descending followed by some pushing and shoving your bike on a trail that wasn’t really there. Man it was great, We then coasted back to the cars, hung a sharp right turn and climbed at least 20 more brutal feet before calling it a day.

I still love that darn Hightower.

Only pics I got but at least enough to prove it happened...
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This is not his fault, he never takes pics and didn’t promise any, but he has good verbiage.
@Maddog was out of flash powder...
That was indeed a very nice write up by bof of yah!
This was a great call by Maddog who was tossing out some tech skills the whole day (other than the WTF moment of seeing Maddog get out of a pick up truck with bike in hando_O). Glad that VT brought the Hightower so he could really enjoy his day. Man! Those bikes pay big dividends! And the hit to the knee looked like it hurt worse then it did.

Got to admit, with all the work that has been done to Manzanita, it has restored me some stoke for the trail! I think the Hightower had a lot to do with that as well! ...and the company. :thumbsup:
Here you go...!


This is classic Manzanita. Super loose scree, narrow often with posts or jutted outcrops of rock to clip your inside bar on. interesting how that combo is perfect for pitching you off the bike and flying down hill. Voodoo rides it like a champ.
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This is famous Manzanita! Shoring's along the way to attempt to hold back Mutha Nature. Yeah, right! Mass wasting will continue. I admire the attempt.
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VT and 20/20... Stopping after a short punchy climb (HAB). This is right after I used my knees as brakes... again, (first time on this ride).
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You will rarely catch me without a smile. I'm riding my bike with Buds! Even with the self inflicted schmackings from time to time. Thank the Lord for my high pain tolerance!
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The Maddog cresting the second summit of the extra credit before we hit the big hike-a-bike.
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Looking back from the second summit, you can see the lower section of Manzanita.
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Views! Who say Mountain Bikers don't take in the scenery!?!?
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A zoom in shot of the climb to Devils chair. :eek: Yeah... daunting at best. It's as precarious as it appears with high levels of penalty for failure if you make a stupid mistake. We rode most of it down... Yeah beotches!
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But to get there, we needed to cross this. This was the easy rideable stuff.
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Dropping the easy stuff to the bottom of the Hike-A-Bike.
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At the bottom... looking up. Don't ever underestimate a Maddog adventure!
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At the turn around point. We thought we would head out to the chair but that's for another day. We were all kinda out of gas.
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The way back from the Devils Chair. Some stuff neither Tom or I felt was a wise ride. So loose and so exposed (the trail... not us! :rolleyes:) Thought better to live and ride another day.
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That last section of extra credit, I had not ridden in literally 20 years. I used to ride that on my 3X8 Proflex with 1.8 to 2.0 XC Porcupine tires. This brought back a lot of memories and even though the Devils Punchbowl is a short ride... it's an amazing trail with incredible views. It's a must do so I plan on taking some folks back and getting some.

Thanks Maddog for putting this together! And thanks Voodoo for hitting another adventure!
 
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That was a great ride report, but I didn't know PE teachers knew or could use the word "precarious!" (You opened that line of questioning...)

For a guy who starts with a disclaimer about his writing abilities, ya done good! :thumbsup:

Oh, and nice ride too, even if "It's a girl my Lord in a flatbed Ford, slowing down to give a ride to me..."
Thanks! Actually we PE teachers are the most intelligent of all educators. We get paid the same as English, Math, Science and History teachers for the equivalent experience and education level, but we don't have to grade papers:gag: or write exams:thumbsup:! My disclaimer was for my sloth and procrastination for when it comes to writing and basketball, I got skills:cool:! Not so much for computer stuff :poop: and smart phones:bang:. Don't have the patience:mad:. Nice Eagles reference but the truck was a Dodge with husband, wife, 2 kids and 2 dogs in crates with whom I shared the flat bed for the vehicular assistance. The Dodge barely made it to the top! I never would have accepted a ride with a Ford 'cuz it would have broken down 1/4 mile from the top. Regrettably it was not a Chevy which would have climbed faster and saved M and V another 5 minutes of wait time!
 
Bravo @Maddog and thanks again for the invite. Having ridden the usual Wrightwood trails a couple times in the last month or so it was time for something new. Last weekend when @Mikie & I were up there I asked him about Manzanita and he replied “it’s ok but it’s not my favorite trail”. Hmmm, well they can’t all be your favorite so I think I get it. Maddog posts up an invite on what might be the last decent weather weekend till springtime and he’s the ultimate tour guide so I’m in.

So I was I’m riding home from work Friday evening up the canyon behind the house & get to thinking about a comment @hill^billy made to Mikie about how much fun the trail should be on his Hightower. Just so happens it’s only about a 2 mile detour to my mom & stepdad’s house so guess what I did? Showed up, knocked on the door, told em I was there to hijack the Hightower, explained it was my weekend for visitation, swapped pedals off my Pivot and was gone in about 10 minutes. This proved to be a wise choice and I’ll keep exercising this option till I sell some stuff and get my own or he caves and puts a bow on the bars and gives it to me.:Roflmao

Maddog’s invite was a perfect description of what was to come. Three not fun miles of blacktop climbing followed by two miles of hideous fireroad climbing to get to the goods. Blacktop was fine especially without cars aiming for us. Fire road climb was just ridiculously steep. Pedaled the whole way up it but I definitely owe thanks to Mikie for setting the pace and the Sram eagle drivetrain on the hightower for the granny gears. Maddog showing up on the back of a flatbed was just damn funny.

Once descending Manzanita it was pure bliss & loose sketchy hillside that was just waiting for you to let your guard down. Haha trail I was paying full attention this time cuzz I’ve had enough of this bailing off my bike crap lately. Poor @Mikie, I make this poor guy lead me down every unknown to me trail in the west. My plan is usually to see what he does and what happens and adjust from there. Usually he makes the tech look easy and then I come along and I come along and prove him wrong. Well this time he goes hard braking/sliding down a drop in to some chunky creekbed and can’t get unclipped before going down and slamming in to the biggest boulder with his knee. Stupid rocks don't give though. From my view this hurt as it was a sudden stop with a thud. Very lucky he didn’t smack his face or head buzz it could have easily happened. Normal people would lay on the ground floundering and pissing and moaning but not Mikie. He bounced up and kept moving before I even had a chance to run him over. I wisely unclipped and walked a few feet of trail here after seeing what happened. The rest of the ups and downs till south fork campground were uneventful as we all took turns showing off our skills and talking smack.

From here we could coast back to the cars and call it a day but we all needed that little something else so we decided to head over to the plateau above devils chair. Me being the dumb bastard I am had no idea what that was or what I was getting in to. The first 1/4 mile or so involved lots of quality hiking with your bike and trying not to slip and fall to your certain death not to mention kinda dragging your bike on the low side. Once past the shear drops it was safer to ride your bike so thats what we did till we hit the bottom of the climb up to the devils chair. This has to be just about the most ridiculous hike a bike known to man. Roughly 1/2 mile long and I think about 100 yards of it are rideable going uphill. Lucky for us this is where we past the large group of hikers going thru some chunk and we navigated it like true rockstars. So well that the peanut gallery was shouting out that we were “legends”. Shortly after this we proceeded to push & shove & drag our bikes to the top of the ridge.

From here we took a break which seemed to last for an eternity. We were trying to be cautious to the hikers we knew were coming up but finally grew tired of waiting and decided to just see what happens. Much to my surprise the drop like a rock descent was mostly rideable and kinda fun. We meet the group of 15-200 hikers right at the highest switchback section of trail. Our fearless leader Mikie decided to show off and clean a nasty switchback while they stood there in awe. Me, well I just walked it and made fun of myself which seemed to be just as entertaining to the peanut gallery. After this it was just more sketchy descending followed by some pushing and shoving your bike on a trail that wasn’t really there. Man it was great, We then coasted back to the cars, hung a sharp right turn and climbed at least 20 more brutal feet before calling it a day.

I still love that darn Hightower.

Only pics I got but at least enough to prove it happened...
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That last 20 ft. was brutal! We gotta park closer next time! Thanks for the additions and the pics for proof to the nonbelievers!
 
@Maddog was out of flash powder...
That was indeed a very nice write up by bof of yah!
Only thing I will add for now is this was a great call by Maddog who was tossing out some tech skills the whole day. Glad that VT brought the Hightower so he could really enjoy his day. Man! Those bikes pay big dividends! And the hit to the knee looked like it hurt worse then it did.

Got to admit, with all the work that has been done to Manzanita, it has restored me some stoke for the trail! I think the Hightower had a lot to do with that as well!
Here you go... I'll re arrange them in order and add some commentary when I get the chance.


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Thanks for the photographical evidence Mikie! I think all you guys should take along your personal photographers on your rides:thumbsup:! Saves a lot of time and aggravation:rolleyes:!
 
Nice ride guys....but you are doing it all wrong. You are supposed to do that 5 miles of hideous climbing after 24 miles / 5000'. :thumbsup:

Such a fun trail.
Au Contraire! The climb started at mile 32 for us! And I think we were at about 7000 feet by the prison. I'd love to try that on fresh legs some time...
Yeah, yeah, yeah... All that and a box lunch...
 
@Mikie Ok ok I admitt, the other day I had metioned to my wife in the late morning, around 11 am after I had just dragged myself out of bed, that I was interested in purchasing an E-BIKE. She immediately kicked me in the a$$ (twice) , then put her foot down and said, it was mandatory I am up between 6 and 7 am and to get a damn job! Now you know.
 
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@Mikie Ok ok I admitt, the other day I had metioned to my wife in the late morning, around 11 am after I had just dragged myself out of bed, that I was interested in purchasing an E-BIKE. She immediately kicked me in the a$$ (twice) , then put her foot down and said, it was mandatory I am up between 6 and 7 am and to get a damn job! Now you know.
Understood. We need to ride so one: I can kick you in the a$$ for making the weak sauce eBike comment as well, but two, you will be riding so you won't need an eBike. :-)
 
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