When Will the Insanity Stop??? 44t Cog?

mtnbikej

mtnbikej

J-Zilla
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/04/15/oneup-goes-bigger-with-new-44-tooth-xx1-replacement-cog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/04/15/one ... ement-cog/</a>

I know....many of you are waiting for the 50t cog.....

Seriously though.....If you need to run a 44t cog, then maybe, just maybe.....1x is not for you. :P
 
mtnbikej said:
Seriously though.....If you need to run a 44t cog, then maybe, just maybe.....1x is not for you. :P
Click to expand...

lol, but 1x looks so much cooler! I'm still stuck on 2x(22-30). I don't hit the granny a lot, but I'm sure glad it's there when I do! :D
 
Maybe they want to run a bigger ring up front? Despite logical justifications, I feel people are going to buy this regardless.
 
skyungjae said:
Maybe they want to run a bigger ring up front? Despite logical justifications, I feel people are going to buy this regardless.
Click to expand...

Yes, as it is intended.....but you know as well as I do.....we are gonna see tons of guys running the 44t cog with 28 & 30t rings like they do now.
 
mtnbikej said:
Runs with Scissors said:
1x isn't for me. I want that 44 on my 2x. :shock:
Click to expand...

Saw a guy at the Oaks about 2 weeks ago with a 42t cog on his 3x. Talk about going nowhere fast.
Click to expand...

It's always fun watching someone pedal like they're on a stationary bike with zero resistance. :lol:
 
susanpowter_stoptheinsanity.jpg


I like my 2X10 26/38 combo on my 29er and my 1X7 on my DH bike.
 
Sure some people will opt for this option but having to disassemble the x dome to do it is questionable. I'm pretty sure something that's pressed together like this is not meant to be taken apart. If the pins get out of tolerance I'm not sure it would stay together. Can you imagine the cassette coming apart on a ride? Wouldn't trust this but I do like that One-up is living up to their name.
 
I suppose I am completely out of the loop still using a 3X10 system. :wtf:
I am very slow to accept changes in Mountain Biking waiting for the hype to wane and to filter out what does not make sense. I focus on function over fashion (sorry Herz), I am going to go to a 2X transmission as it does make sense for me.
1X does not make sense for the riding I do...
 
Mikie said:
I suppose I am completely out of the loop still using a 3X10 system. :wtf:
I am very slow to accept changes in Mountain Biking waiting for the hype to wane and to filter out what does not make sense. I focus on function over fashion (sorry Herz), I am going to go to a 2X transmission as it does make sense for me.
1X does not make sense for the riding I do...
Click to expand...


I love the appeal of the simplicity, and I may give it a try with a wolf tooth setup, but I think I'd really miss my 38 up front. 2x seems perfect right now...
 
Who cares what gearing people use as long as they are out riding. Personally bike packing and bonking I have never met a low gear I did not like. You don't have to use it but it is nice it is there when you need it. That is way we use the term bailout gear.

Going "no where fast" sounds very appealing to me after some days at work.

Dean
 
Prying apart a $300 cassette to kludge on even more dollars worth of cog wouldn't be my first choice. But having a wider ratio setup without a front derailleur could be nice.

I'd be curious how a 10-44 cassette performs with a 48 or 50 tooth front chainring on a road bike.

But if 28/42 isn't cutting it, yeah, that's what triples are for. Not judgin', just sayin'
 
Broke and broken said:
Prying apart a $300 cassette to kludge on even more dollars worth of cog wouldn't be my first choice. But having a wider ratio setup without a front derailleur could be nice.

I'd be curious how a 10-44 cassette performs with a 48 or 50 tooth front chainring on a road bike.

But if 28/42 isn't cutting it, yeah, that's what triples are for. Not judgin', just sayin'
Click to expand...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sram-brings-1x-tech-to-the-road-sram-r1

1x is going to be king of the mountain for mtb and road. :mrgreen:
 
dstepper said:
Who cares what gearing people use as long as they are out riding. Personally bike packing and bonking I have never met a low gear I did not like. You don't have to use it but it is nice it is there when you need it. That is way we use the term bailout gear.

Going "no where fast" sounds very appealing to me after some days at work.

Dean
Click to expand...
'Hah! Thank you! Someone had to say it! I agree, however since this is a Mountain Bike Website we have to talk about something! Ha hah!

I have no pride when it comes to my 3X10! It works great for me! 8-)
 
skyungjae said:
1x is going to be king of the mountain for mtb and road. :mrgreen:
Click to expand...

I would be surprised if this caught on outside of areas that have no real climbing. Why would someone want those kinds of gaps between gears on a road bike? It's less of an issue an mountain but I still get a little annoyed when I can't find the right gear on my 11-32 cassette. 2x is great with 39-26 chainrings.
 
I don't think it a bad idea. People are reporting that the aluminum 42T is wearing out faster than the rest of the cassette. You're basically tossing a mostly good cassette for the sake of one worn cog.

There is a company in Europe making replacement 42T's for a while now.

Wolf Tooth is jumping on too with their own replacement 42T.

The 44T is good because its another option. It'll also let you run a bigger ring up front if you want more top end.

1x for road would be awesome for a crit or TT bike.
 
I've been on 1x for the last 10yrs & just love the simplicity. No matter how nice the extra gearing from 2x or 3x, once the front rings wear a little the chain would jump off. I'm currently on SRAM X01 10-42 Cassette & 28t front ring. I've yet to feel like I don't have enough top end, so it's hard for me to understand that concern unless your using your mountain bike as a commuter bike or riding steep down hill fireroads. A 44 rear is nice as it just adds another option. I'm not sure if I'd buy one, but the older I get, I bet this option will look nicer.
 
Mikie said:
I suppose I am completely out of the loop still using a 3X10 system. :wtf:
I am very slow to accept changes in Mountain Biking waiting for the hype to wane and to filter out what does not make sense. I focus on function over fashion (sorry Herz).
Click to expand...

On the contrary, as you know my "fashion" comments are reserved for clothes, and even then, are mostly in jest. I don't even own any day-glo colored shorts, jerseys or helmet My "fashion" schtick is as genuine as Stephen Colbert's right wing persona.

When it comes to my bike, I am one of the least trendy and absolutely believe form follows function. I do not like 1x11, based on the three times I've ridden a bike with such. As you know, I have an aluminum 26er from a brand almost nobody knows with a 2x10 and a Marzocchi fork. I am definitely not fashionable or trendy when it comes to my bike, but boy, does it ride well! And I have all the gears I want and none that I don't. :wave:

So Mikie, I am totally with you about being slow to jump on a bandwagon. I was even highly reluctant to add a dropper post. The two innovations that I jumped on right away were thru-axles and clutch derailleurs. Real game changers, IMO. :thumbup:
 
mtbbiker said:
I've been on 1x for the last 10yrs & just love the simplicity. No matter how nice the extra gearing from 2x or 3x, once the front rings wear a little the chain would jump off. I'm currently on SRAM X01 10-42 Cassette & 28t front ring. I've yet to feel like I don't have enough top end, so it's hard for me to understand that concern unless your using your mountain bike as a commuter bike or riding steep down hill fireroads.
Click to expand...

I spin out of 36x11 once in a while, so I can't imagine 28 x10 would be satisfactory to me. I also rarely lose a chain off my chainrings - less often than either of my friends on 1x11s. That said, it's cool that you've found what works for you! I would never try to convince you to do otherwise.
 
herzalot said:
mtbbiker said:
I've been on 1x for the last 10yrs & just love the simplicity. No matter how nice the extra gearing from 2x or 3x, once the front rings wear a little the chain would jump off. I'm currently on SRAM X01 10-42 Cassette & 28t front ring. I've yet to feel like I don't have enough top end, so it's hard for me to understand that concern unless your using your mountain bike as a commuter bike or riding steep down hill fireroads.
Click to expand...

I spin out of 36x11 once in a while, so I can't imagine 28 x10 would be satisfactory to me. I also rarely lose a chain off my chainrings - less often than either of my friends on 1x11s. That said, it's cool that you've found what works for you! I would never try to convince you to do otherwise.
Click to expand...
Now you did it! I bet on Saturday's ride, your guarantee to throw a chain! & im going to be there to tell you "told you so" lol. I still use a simple upper chain guide, because I would still occasionally throw a chain on super rough trails like rocket. When I had 2x or 3x Rocket would almost always guarantee me a thrown chain. I spin out also occasionally 28x10 but even when I do it's a gear I can't pedal hard in for long unless I'm on the pavement or down hill fireroad. 1X is definitely not for everyone & it good that we have many options. Also when you make the switch to 1x it's a bear to get use to, but you & your legs will get use to it quickly as you get stronger. It definitely takes more than a couple of rides to truly see the benefits.




Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
 
mtnbikej said:
Runs with Scissors said:
1x isn't for me. I want that 44 on my 2x. :shock:
Click to expand...

Saw a guy at the Oaks about 2 weeks ago with a 42t cog on his 3x. Talk about going nowhere fast.
Click to expand...

hey, hey, heyyyyyyy now.... I just got a 3x crankset with 40-30-22 ! yea that's right, I have 3x10 so now I got a 22-36 low gear. :shock: talk about walking faster!

>>>However, this is for my new bike packing bike that weighs in about 50 lbs fully loaded.

i couldn't imagine anything lower geared. wouldnt be able to steer going that slow. I'm normally a 2x10 guy.
 
I think you need to get a OneUp (or equivalent) 42T cog. 22-42 seems like an awesome combination. You could probably climb steep stairs from a stop mid-way.
 
skyungjae said:
I think you need to get a OneUp (or equivalent) 42T cog. 22-42 seems like an awesome combination. You could probably climb steep stairs from a stop mid-way.
Click to expand...

I have a bike with 22-42. I can only use 22-42 on very smooth uphill trails, once you come to the smallest stepup going uphill it will stop you, you do not have enough pedal stroke to get thru it. Many make the mistake of climbing tech in too low of a gear. That is why in my opinion everyone should spend some time on a rigid single speed it teaches you better bike skills. I have rode some full suspension bikes that squat and hangup on uphill steps in granny gear but when trying the same step-up in middle ring the bike goes right over it.

Dean
 
dstepper said:
...... I have rode some full suspension bikes that squat and hangup on uphill steps in granny gear but when trying the same step-up in middle ring the bike goes right over it.

Dean
Click to expand...
[/quote]


And that's another reason to get rid of the granny and big ring! :lol:
.
.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top