Snow Summitt clipped???

Redman

Redman

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I am going up to SS Bike Park this weekend. And, want to know what you guys think about riding clipped in up there.
I have been riding clipped in forever. But haven't rode lift assisted trails in 15+ years and when I did I rode with flats. I've watched videos of ss and don't think the trails are to gnarly where I shouldn't be clipped in. I think I'll leave my clipless pedals on and bring some flats in case.


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I did Snow Summit for the first time last year, and rode clipped in. Partly because I didn't know any better, and partly because it was what I was familiar with. I rolled almost every single one of the jump features, but handled everything else fine (including the wall ride) on Westridge (?) and I never once wished I wasn't clipped in.

Your mileage may vary.
 
What do you like for jumping? "Cause that's pretty much all there is up there - jump trails. Some people like to be clipped in when jumping for the sense of security of having your feet on the pedals. Others like the bail-out option that flats provide. I ride there with my CB Mallets, but I suck at SS's version of jumps. Ride what you like. Bring both. Doesn't take long to change your pedals and your shoes in the parking lot and experiment.
 
Just don't think up a list of conditions that increase the chance of getting injured. For example:

- Doing something unfamiliar, which is considered challenging
- Having doubt in your preparation
- Not being well practiced with a specific plan in case things don't work so smoothly

I'm worried too, bro.
 
I won't comment on the flats vs clipless thing because it is a deeply personal issue like politics, religion and Caitlyn Jenner. I will say the last time I rode flats at snow summit when I wasn't used to riding them, I broke my ankle pretty bad and couldn't ride my bike on pavement for 2 months or on dirt for 3 months. Whatever you're most comfortable with... and what Herz said, bring them both, you can always swap out after a run or two.
 
Regardless of where I am (and I don't do downhill bombing a la Snow Summit) if I feel uncomfortable with the terrain I unclip and ride with my arch on the pedal. This will allow for a very rapid dismount if I need it, but allows me to clip back in quickly.
 
I'm gonna bring both and start with what I'm used to, clipless.

Got some old KKT Lightnings for back up. ;-)


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herzalot said:
What do you like for jumping? "Cause that's pretty much all there is up there - jump trails. Some people like to be clipped in when jumping for the sense of security of having your feet on the pedals. Others like the bail-out option that flats provide. I ride there with my CB Mallets, but I suck at SS's version of jumps. Ride what you like. Bring both. Doesn't take long to change your pedals and your shoes in the parking lot and experiment.
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What do you mean by "SS's version of jumps"?


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Redman said:
What do you mean by "SS's version of jumps"?
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Abrupt take-offs. Much different contour than I've experienced on intermediate runs at Whistler, Winter Park, Keystone and Northstar. Force a much higher trajectory - more commitment.
 
herzalot said:
Redman said:
What do you mean by "SS's version of jumps"?
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Abrupt take-offs. Much different contour than I've experienced on intermediate runs at Whistler, Winter Park, Keystone and Northstar. Force a much higher trajectory - more commitment.
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Now that I've been there. I concur 100%. The lips shoot you way up. Suspension Set up is key.
Went over the bars on one of the bigger step ups after coming up short and bouncing off the knuckle. Separated my shoulder and jacked my neck pretty good.
That happens at the end of the day. Other than that I had a blast and will be back for sure.


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herzalot said:
Redman said:
What do you mean by "SS's version of jumps"?
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Abrupt take-offs. Much different contour than I've experienced on intermediate runs at Whistler, Winter Park, Keystone and Northstar. Force a much higher trajectory - more commitment.
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Clifnotes version: Lippy



:lol:
 
Last time I did a real bike park, I rode with flats. I also wrecked my shoulder. Last summer when I was playing around at the Truckee bike park doing pump track, the dual slalom course and drop zone, flats felt really weird and insecure - I much preferred being clipped in.

So I echo what the others have said - take both, and try both. I'm kind of thinking the ideal solution for me would be some CB Mallets with the clipless-capable 510s and really worn-down cleats that come out with the slightest twist.
 
I went up on the 5/22 and my buddy twisted his knee pretty bad. He couldn't unclip when he ate it on a turn. He's going in for his MRI results tomorrow. I hope there are no lasting effects from his crash.
 
Redman said:
Went over the bars on one of the bigger step ups after coming up short and bouncing off the knuckle. Separated my shoulder and jacked my neck pretty good.
That happens at the end of the day. Other than that I had a blast and will be back for sure.
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You say you separated your shoulder as though you scratched your elbow. My dislocated shoulder took an ER visit and three months of re-hab. Is there a difference between a separated shoulder and a dislocated shoulder? Are you one of those guys who can just pop your shoulder back in, throw some ice on it and keep playing? The goalie on my adult rec hockey team was like that - it happened a couple of times, and he would just ram it back in against the pipes and keep playing.

And yes - that's the big problem with SS jumps - abrupt takeoffs and a high penalty for almost making it. If you set up your rear suspension soft enough to forgive the missed landings with a slow enough rebound to keep from bucking, then you will absorb the energy you need for take-off, making it that much harder to clear. Ahhh the conundrum.

Oh - and did you prefer being clipped in or unclipped? the suspense is killing us!
 
herzalot said:
Redman said:
Went over the bars on one of the bigger step ups after coming up short and bouncing off the knuckle. Separated my shoulder and jacked my neck pretty good.
That happens at the end of the day. Other than that I had a blast and will be back for sure.
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You say you separated your shoulder as though you scratched your elbow. My dislocated shoulder took an ER visit and three months of re-hab. Is there a difference between a separated shoulder and a dislocated shoulder? Are you one of those guys who can just pop your shoulder back in, throw some ice on it and keep playing? The goalie on my adult rec hockey team was like that - it happened a couple of times, and he would just ram it back in against the pipes and keep playing.

And yes - that's the big problem with SS jumps - abrupt takeoffs and a high penalty for almost making it. If you set up your rear suspension soft enough to forgive the missed landings with a slow enough rebound to keep from bucking, then you will absorb the energy you need for take-off, making it that much harder to clear. Ahhh the conundrum.

Oh - and did you prefer being clipped in or unclipped? the suspense is killing us!
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i went and got xrays yesterday, nothing broke. 3rd degree separation. i will go see orthopedic once the s welling goes down, to make sure there is no real bad ligament damage and get proper rehab. supposedly separations are not as severe as dislocations.

oh yeah, i rode clipped the whole day. did not feel like i should been on flats ever. i think the clips helped with exit speed coming out of turns and pedaling when needed. i def felt more controlled and confident being clipped in on everything but the jumps. because the faces are "lippy" i didn't feel as confident being clipped in for jumping. but, i took 6 runs. a few more runs to remember where everything is at, and i think i'd be good. definitely not used to jumps like that.
 
skyungjae said:
I went up on the 5/22 and my buddy twisted his knee pretty bad. He couldn't unclip when he ate it on a turn. He's going in for his MRI results tomorrow. I hope there are no lasting effects from his crash.
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my buddy said:
Doctor called this afternoon. My left, medial meniscus is torn & my right, floating ribs're cracked.
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I hope it doesn't require surgery. :(
 
Hertz, a shoulder dislocation is when the head of the humerus comes out of the glenoid socket in the scapula. A shoulder separation, also known as an AC, or acromiocalvicular, separation or sprain, is damage (either stretch, partial, or complete,tear of the ligament between the acromion process of the scapula and the distal end of the clavicle. So, they are differernt injuries. A mild ac sprain can heal pretty quickly, but a severe ac sprain or complete tear may require surgery. Howver a dislocation can have longer-lasting effects if the labrum tears during the dislocation. I had a grade 2 ac sprain 8 years ago, (from a stupid crash on dripping cave) I dont ever want that again it was a year before I could lift weights with that shoulder without pain and with full strength.
 
sir crashalot said:
Hertz, a shoulder dislocation is when the head of the humerus comes out of the glenoid socket in the scapula. A shoulder separation, also known as an AC, or acromiocalvicular, separation or sprain, is damage (either stretch, partial, or complete,tear of the ligament between the acromion process of the scapula and the distal end of the clavicle. So, they are differernt injuries. A mild ac sprain can heal pretty quickly, but a severe ac sprain or complete tear may require surgery. Howver a dislocation can have longer-lasting effects if the labrum tears during the dislocation. I had a grade 2 ac sprain 8 years ago, (from a stupid crash on dripping cave) I dont ever want that again it was a year before I could lift weights with that shoulder without pain and with full strength.
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:? :o :shock: :?: :eh: :think: :wtf: WOW!
 
Well, that more accurately answers the question regarding just how bad a f'd up shoulder is, without leaving much to imagination (and exaggeration). Thanks.
 
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