heat stroke symptoms

konakc

iMTB Rockstah
Hey All,
Now that the heat is coming, some signs to look out for to prevent death! Once you have heat induced coma, its too late, u dead! Symptoms prior to heat induced coma are:

Stop sweating
decreasing coordination (ie keeps crashing and not caring)
decreasing verbal communication (slurring speech)
lack of care for personal safety/pain
decreasing mental awareness

(obvious symptoms are thirst, yellow/dark urine)

At the earliest stages of above symptoms...must try to decrease body temperature via water and cooling.
if no water or shade must stop activity..
continued activity will continue progression of body temperature..

the next symptom if continue with same circumstances is unconsciousness = heat coma = too late in wilderness situations w/o water

key: don't run out of water
stop what ur doing if no water and above symptoms
get water/ or help = don't be alone

lets ride! be safe! always more trails to explore next time...
 
2 summers ago, I was validating the effectiveness of my research regarding my copy of Tailwind/Scratch drink mix formula by riding the road during 1-4 pm. I was testing the very myth that hydration prevents heat stroke. After the ride, that night I found that my body's own temp regulation was not really functioning at all. My temps stayed elevated for a long period of time, especially my skin temp; it was as if it thought 104 F was normal operating body temp. I was expecting some sort of heat stroke-like effect from the test, so I calmly remedied it by regularly wiping myself down, especially my forehead, with a wet wrung-out washcloth regularly until I returned to normal. It took several hours, but was fully recovered by the next day, with bed time a little delayed.

Gist of the story, is that you can still get heat stroke, despite being prepared with plenty of hydration. For context, I was riding with very light roadie-style clothing with a lot of skin exposed, averaging at least 15 mph for the duration, with a couple ~15 min breaks mid-ride.

Digest of "sciency wisdom" that I've learned that may serve as advice:
- body temp regulation is the name of the game.
- maximizing ventilation is foolish when the environment isn't cooler than your body. The air temp could be measured as low as 20 F by a thermometer, but the same thermometer exposed to the sun can register 80 F; this is why outside thermometers like bank signs always report higher temps than the weatherman. Don't underestimate the heat from infrared radiation from the sun (not only direct, but also reflecting off of the sand, your bike, off the ground and again off the underside of clouds, etc), rocks, asphalt, etc.
- Sweat is the primary natural way for our body to regulate its temp, mostly through an effect called evaporative cooling. You know that feeling, when you let a breeze (or AC) hit your sweaty clothes... exploit this effect wisely.
- Light colored and loose clothes is often recommended*, but like the food pyramid**, these guidelines were intended for specific user groups. Black colored clothing actually has advantages in certain high temp conditions...

* useful for summer picnics, not so much for intense exercise (especially not at higher speeds)
** useful for physical labor and endurance sport lifestyles, terrible for sedentary lifestyle

The last point deserves some elaboration. It should be common sense that things appear white because it reflects a wide range of the color spectrum of light, as does silver, while black appears black because it absorbs a wide range of light's color spectrum. Heat comes from infrared, which is not part of the visible color spectrum (infrared <- ROYGBIV -> Ultra violet). Here's the kicker: black absorbs heat from the body, while white reflects body heat. They both cool at a similar rate (trivia: metallic/silver cools slower). With active cooling coming from normal riding air flow and body movement, black colored objects will exchange higher heat/temps from the body to the cooler temps outside better than white.

Wait, but that's not all... white also allows more light to penetrate. You may notice that when wet, a white t-shirt becomes much less opaque than a black one. This is allowing much more harmful UV rays to damage your DNA (your body's blueprints)--your white blood cells devour all these damaged/mutated cancerous cells with a ~99.999% effectiveness rate, but that 0.001% can be something to worry about--the effects of the white blood cells work shows as a sun burn, and you may have noticed how spotty they are. Your body "tans itself" to absorb UV, partially preventing future UV rays from penetrating deeper (my sympathies to people with light colored skin). UV also ages your skin, if that matters to you.

For a limited time only, if you act now... Mikie can argue that air flow over his spandex shorts that dispersed his sweat over a wide area is way better than the same airflow over bullets of sweat dripping down bare skin, under neon yellow baggies that is blocking the air flow. Loose clothing doesn't make efficient use of the effect of sweat if it's just letting it drip--it also retains an insulating layer of high humidity, which reduces the effect of evaporative cooling. Use your entire surface area of your body as a heat sink. Keep the water spread like mist to speed up evaporation and boost the impact of the evaporative cooling effect.

---end science-related dump---



Too long, didn't read? A guy dressing up as a ninja to bike in the summer is not as hot/stupid in that suit as you may think, compared to going "suns out, guns out". To learn why, you know what to do ^^^ *wink* *nudge*

Disclaimer: this post is not 100% "scientifically accurate". They are just my observations and should be validated/peer reviewed before investing any belief into it. Researching thermodynamics, Planck's law, etc should get you started.
 
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2 summers ago, I was validating the effectiveness of my research regarding my copy of Tailwind/Scratch drink mix formula by riding the road during 1-4 pm. I was testing the very myth that hydration prevents heat stroke. After the ride, that night I found that my body's own temp regulation was not really functioning at all. My temps stayed elevated for a long period of time, especially my skin temp. I was expecting some sort of heat stroke-like effect from the test, so I calmly remedied it by regularly wiping myself down, especially my forehead, with a wet wrung-out washcloth regularly until I returned to normal. It took several hours, but was fully recovered by the next day, with bed time a little delayed.

Gist of the story, is that you can still get heat stroke, despite being prepared with plenty of hydration. For context, I was riding with very light roadie-style clothing with a lot of skin exposed, averaging at least 15 mph for the duration, with a couple ~15 min breaks mid-ride.

Digest of "sciency wisdom" that I've learned that may serve as advice:
- body temp regulation is the name of the game.
- maximizing ventilation is foolish when the environment isn't cooler than your body. The air temp could be measured as low as 20 F by a thermometer, but the same thermometer exposed to the sun can register 80 F; this is why outside thermometers like bank signs always report higher temps than the weatherman. Don't underestimate the heat from infrared radiation from the sun (not only direct, but also reflecting off of the sand, your bike, off the ground and again off the underside of clouds, etc), rocks, asphalt, etc.
- Sweat is the primary natural way for our body to regulate its temp, mostly through an effect called evaporative cooling. You know that feeling, when you let a breeze (or AC) hit your sweaty clothes... exploit this effect wisely.
- Light colored and loose clothes is often recommended*, but like the food pyramid**, these guidelines were intended for specific user groups. Black colored clothing actually has advantages in certain high temp conditions...

* useful for summer picnics, not so much for intense exercise (especially not at higher speeds)
** useful for physical labor and endurance sport lifestyles, terrible for sedentary lifestyle

The last point deserves some elaboration. It should be common sense that things appear white because it reflects a wide range of the color spectrum of light, as does silver, while black appears black because it absorbs a wide range of light's color spectrum. Heat comes from infrared, which is not part of the visible color spectrum (infrared <- ROYGBIV -> Ultra violet). Here's the kicker: black absorbs heat from the body, while white reflects body heat. They both cool at a similar rate (trivia: metallic/silver cools slower). With active cooling coming from normal riding air flow and body movement, black colored objects will exchange higher heat/temps from the body to the cooler temps outside better than white.

Wait, but that's not all... white also allows more light to penetrate. You may notice that when wet, a white t-shirt becomes much less opaque than a black one. This is allowing much more harmful UV rays to damage your DNA (your body's blueprints)--your white blood cells devour all these damaged/mutated cancerous cells with a ~99.999% effectiveness rate, but that 0.001% can be something to worry about--the effects of the white blood cells work shows as a sun burn, and you may have noticed how spotty they are. Your body "tans itself" to absorb UV, partially preventing future UV rays from penetrating deeper (my sympathies to people with light colored skin). UV also ages your skin, if that matters to you.

For a limited time only, if you act now... Mikie can argue that air flow over his spandex shorts that dispersed his sweat over a wide area is way better than the same airflow over bullets of sweat dripping down bare skin, under neon yellow baggies that is blocking the air flow (and retaining an insulating layer of high humidity). Loose clothing doesn't make efficient use of the effect of sweat if it's just letting it drip. Use your entire surface area of your body as a heat sink. Keep the water spread like mist to speed up evaporation and boost the impact of the evaporative cooling effect.

---end science-related dump---



Too long, didn't read? A guy dressing up as a ninja to bike in the summer is not as hot/stupid in that suit as you may think, compared to going "suns out, guns out". To learn why, you know what to do ^^^ *wink* *nudge*

Disclaimer: this post is not 100% "scientifically accurate". They are just my observations and should be validated/peer reviewed before investing any belief into it. Researching tthermodynamics, Plank's law, etc should get you started.
I read all of it, pondered the jist, and I'm still pooping.
 
I read all of it, pondered the jist, and I'm still pooping.

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Thanks for the PSA, kc :thumbsup:

Heat's effect is minimized by simply being fit. A body used to becoming/remaining taxed will do better in heat. More so when taxing is in the heat. Beyond that, obviously, liquid intake is paramount, and shade can make a difference.

Along with a partner, might as well bring your 250 dollar PLB, cuz saving time getting help to someone overheating could be saving his life. Electrolyte replacement products are worth mentioning, I think.

No need to validate research effectiveness when you've lived it for decades...
 
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So wear black.. I like it...

As long as you consider the points I mentioned first being of higher importance/value. The color could just be surface deep (superficial), with the underlying material not being all that affected. It could be why you don't see summer fabrics that have black brushed interiors and silvery/white hybrid exteriors (reversible for winter). Just wanted to dispel myths...

A fabric like merino wool works year round because it does an excellent job of regulating body temp. Regulating body temp is key to comfort, allowing you to venture out in extreme climate, ideally with passive low tech methods (as opposed to an astronaut's space suit). If you lined a winter jacket with a space blanket for venturing around some winter wonderland, you might feel overheated, especially if it contrasted with the extreme cold of your toes, ears, or fingers (it might actually make your extremities feel even colder). Stepping out of the indoors with AC set to 70F in a sleeveless shirt, shorts, and flipflops, to the 95F outside temps, would feel far worse than if the temp difference was much less. Someone in a full business dress suit of wool, which some might mistake for a winter fabric, in the same 70F building stepping out to the 95F outside temps, would likely feel less discomfort, since it kept their body at a more constant temp regardless of the surrounding temp.

No shame in choosing something like an all black helmet, considering it's not directly touching your body and radiating no more heat than a white colored helmet that could affect the convective air flow reaching your noggin. Car color, on the other hand, should be wisely considered. You will likely regret choosing black if you park your car exposed to the sun in summer.

Long story short, to prevent heat stroke, and improve your experience out in the high heat, improve the efficiency of your heat management systems. Leverage your sweat "system", the air flow from riding, clothing technology, etc. to not only keep you from overheating, but to make your experience more pleasant/comfortable. If your sweat is being wasted dripping off, it doesn't matter how much you drink to replace it, as it's not doing an effective job at cooling you off; I wouldn't expect you to sweat more because you've been chugging more fluids. Likely better off using it to wet a cloth to wipe yourself down, or to use in a misting sprayer, than drinking it, if you're going "suns out, guns out" with a lot of exposed skin. Like the saying goes, there's no bad weather, only bad gear; summer heat is no exception to this.
 
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decreasing coordination (ie keeps crashing and not caring)
decreasing verbal communication (slurring speech)
lack of care for personal safety/pain
decreasing mental awareness

Hmmmm, this sounds like symptoms of something else as well...

I'll drink to that!

OK, seriously. Thank you for posting this PSA. Worthwhile to look out for each other.
 
Well, learned something new at least from this thread. Research took me to researching if anyone's tried commercializing the concept of sticking space blankets on windows to reflect summer heat (and point the reflective stuff inwards to keep heat in during winter). Apparently, there's a high tech product called Inflector, that does this yet allows light through. Strikes me as someone thought of making mirrored sunglasses in a window shade form. Too bad it costs $20/sq ft (compared to the $3 space blankets). Looks like an interesting business franchise though, to become an installer.

Oops, just noticed that I already entered phase 2 of the imtb forum syndrome/disorder: derailing thread topics (despite only being back 1 day after about 6 months away).
 
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I've experienced heat exhaustion before, not fun at all. It hit me suddenly while I was climbing out of Sullivan Canyon in the Santa Monicas and the ambient temperature was well above the 100 mark. I was sweating profusely, so much so that I had goose bumps. Felt weak like I had bonked but I could not hold down anything. Puked and felt better but my mistake was not having plain water with me, all I had was sugary snacks and a sugary energy drink.
Now I pre-hydrate before riding in the heat and making sure not to overexert. I also carry plain water in a bottle and not over do the sugary energy drink.
 
Yesterday I ran out of water in WR. It was very very hot. Today I rode 10 mi and had plenty of water but still felt dehydrated from yesterday.

I am 3.5lb lighter today than yesterday. Goes to show you how much a fat guy sweats.
 
My wife gets heat stroke symptoms every time we go on vacation to the tropics. Usually on a hike, like 1 mile in. It happens very fast to. like 30min or less of exposure. I have to get her in the shade and get water on her head pretty quick and get into the car with AC or a building with AC.
 
Back in the day I was a Desert racer. And District-37 raced year round rain or shine. Heat prostration was common, and that group of people will yank you off your bike dunk your feet in a ice chest, make you a towel hat full of ice, fan you with water, force feed you water whether you like it or not. They knew something was wrong with me because a normal 7 second pit was met with me lollygagging cracking jokes. They pulled my goggles and I was white as a ghost. Miss those days. Anyway, when its blistering hot and you're mtn biking I suggest that no matter what you're symptoms are if you feel weird, bad, goofy, happy, something is not good. Get in shade and address the problem then use your remaining energy to go back. And do a beer bong instead.
 
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