Good Read On Our Local Mtn Lions.....

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Orange County’s mountain lions are on the brink, and the only way to pull them back may soon become introducing lions from elsewhere, according to a new study.

Highways and housing projects have hemmed in Southern California’s lions, dividing them into two major groups. One is in the Santa Ana Mountains, the other is in the Eastern Peninsula Range in San Diego County.

Scientists know of only one lion that has successfully crossed between the two regions since 2001, and that lion produced four offspring. Only one is still alive, a female with two offspring, who may or may not disperse.

The odds are not in the lions’ favor, according to the study, which was led by UC Davis researchers and published Wednesday. So severe are the threats posed by speeding cars and gun-armed landowners shooting livestock-killing lions that a Southern California lion today only has a 55.8 percent chance of still being alive a year from now.

That survival rate is lower than many lion populations in the Western U.S. that are hunted for sport or to control attacks on livestock.

Though hunting lions is illegal in California, the Southern California population could be snuffed out simply by the lifestyle of the more than 20 million people who now live here, as those people build homes and roads, drive their cars and increasingly isolate the lions.

“The assumption that populations do fine on their own when not hunted is not true in Southern California,” said Winston Vickers, the lead author on the study. “All these sources of mortality are related one way or another to our patterns of human development and human behavior.”

In Orange County, lions are almost always killed by cars. According to the study, the highest concentrations of lion deaths was along the 241 toll road and the Ortega Highway, with additional deaths on the 261 toll road -- all high-speed roadways bordering or cutting through the Santa Ana Mountains.

In San Diego County, lions were more often killed by landowners who secured depredation permits to eliminate lions that preyed on livestock.

Though the number of Southern California lions killed by people with depredation permits has declined in the last decade, the number killed by vehicles has only increased.

The study, published in the online science journal PLOS ONE, detailed scientists’ efforts to track lions between 2001 and 2013 using GPS radio collars. A total of 74 lions were studied, and only one left the study area, crossing from the San Diego County into Mexico.

The paper estimates between 17 and 27 lions live in the Santa Ana Mountains. With limited breeding partners, those lions are becoming increasingly inbred, threatening their genetic diversity and, ultimately, their survival.

“When landscapes get so fragmented that animals can’t get around, ecosystems unravel,” said Scott Morrison, director of science for The Nature Conservancy in California, and a coauthor of the study. “This study is a wake up call, to avoid developing in ways that create these crises with wildlife.”

Lions were long ago killed off in the eastern U.S., except for a small population of Florida panthers. Those, too, nearly went extinct, until wildlife managers brought in some Texas lions in the 1990s to breed with the Florida animals and increase both the population and the diversity in the gene pool.

Such measures may soon be necessary in Southern California.

“We’re headed in that direction at a steady and maybe accelerating pace. We have chances to attempt to correct the situation, but those will go away,” Vickers said.

The first solution is to make highway crossings safer and more lion-friendly, while blocking lions from the rest of the highway with fences, Vickers said. A good example is the 241 toll road, where the Transportation Corridor Agency is building a fence.

It’s easy to think that such a large, mobile, speedy animal -- the king of the animal kingdom -- would be invincible. But after more than a decade spent studying the animals, Vickers has come to realize how defenseless they really are.

“Mountain lions are an indicator of the power we have to disrupt ecosystems,” Vickers said. “They’re way more vulnerable to us in our day-to-day way we live in Southern California than we think.”
 
Saw the fence going up on the 241 two weeks while driving to Big Bear. I figured it was to keep wildlife from crossing the road, and that is a good thing.

However, wildlife needs a way to get past the road. I think there is a tunnel somewhere, but could be wrong on that.
 
I am very much conflicted on this. I read the article in the dead tree version this morning. While I'm not rooting for the extinction of the local mountain lion population, I won't shed any tears if/when it occurs. The species isn't going extinct - only the local population might.

There is plenty of empty space in this country, and the one south of us. Even more in the one to the north of us. The mountain lion/puma isn't dying out. It's just not doing well in the Santa Anas. Given the realities of the situation, I don't think the local pumas are going to make it. I also don't think it's worth the hand-wringing and such that is going on about it.

I, for one, will give PETA no ammunition to further their twisted agenda...and the possible demise of the puma from the Santa Anas can be construed as falling right into PETA's lap. But I can't go there. I won't go there.
 
Mountain lions play (or rather, have played, when there numbers were greater) a role in the local ecology, keeping the numbers of deer, and the numbers of mid-sized predators, in check. Which can have an effect on the diversity and distribution of plant species; and small mammal and bird species, respectively, if cougars are extirpated. Granted, its a small chunk of open space compared to the vast spaces of the intermountain west, but its our chunk!
Twenty yeras ago, when I did a reserach paper on lions in the Santa Anas, if I remember correctly there were around 35-45 adult lions. If now there are 17-27, that is a 50% reduction. so twenty years from now...8 lions? Zero?
If I remember correctly, Beier's paper on santa ana pumas in...1989? 1991? predicted their extirpation around 2050 if things didnt change. It called for similar measures to protect the sanat ana lions and ensure their interbreeding with peninsular range lions, specifically calling for a corridor over the 1-15 near temecula where they could cross safely. So if nothing much has been done in 25 years its not looking good. However when the toll roads were built they did include some underpasses, and its inetersting that theyre building a fence whereas caltrans is not building one yet along 74.
terrible of me to say this but i gotta admit it would be nice to ride or hike alone in the SAs without fear of cougar attacks! Selfish thought.
 
sir crashalot said:
Mountain lions play (or rather, have played, when there numbers were greater) a role in the local ecology, keeping the numbers of deer, and the numbers of mid-sized predators, in check. Which can have an effect on the diversity and distribution of plant species; and small mammal and bird species, respectively, if cougars are extirpated. Granted, its a small chunk of open space compared to the vast spaces of the intermountain west, but its our chunk!
Twenty yeras ago, when I did a reserach paper on lions in the Santa Anas, there were around 35-45 adult lions. If now there are 17-27, that is a 50% reduction. so twenty years from now...8 lions? Zero?
If I remember correctly, Beier's paper on santa ana pumas in...1989? 1991? predicted their extirpation around 2050 if things didnt change. It called for similar measures to protect the sanat ana lions and ensure their interbreeding with peninsular range lions, specifically calling for a corridor over the 1-15 near temecula where they could cross safely. So if nothing much has been done in 25 years its not looking good. However when the toll roads were built they did include some underpasses, and its inetersting that theyre building a fence whereas caltrans is not building one yet along 74.
terrible of me to say this but i gotta admit it would be nice to ride or hike alone in the SAs without fear of cougar attacks! Selfish thought.

That's the problem....don't think about. I spend a lot of time out there....often by myself, I think about them being out there....my ride on Saturday morning proves it with the paw prints I saw...but there is no fear.

On the other note.....look how many deer you see these days. You cannot ride through Whiting without running across 1. Getting to be the same way at the Oaks. Not enough predators, and the large animal population gets too big.
 
Ha! I try not to think about it when im out there. The risk is actually very low attacks in the sa's have been rare. I saw one once in san mateo, it just ran away, my only sighting in 25 years.
And yep too many deer...
 
The first solution is to make highway crossings safer and more lion-friendly,

Oh great, so they are going to use our taxes to build an animal bridge but I can't even get a bicycle & pedestrian bridge for safe travel to work?
:evil: :lol:
wait.. seriously, are they? :roll:

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mtnbikej said:
On the other note.....look how many deer you see these days. You cannot ride through Whiting without running across 1. Getting to be the same way at the Oaks. Not enough predators, and the large animal population gets too big.

Actually there are plenty of predators. Humans are predators of deer. The issue is that you really can't hunt in the Santa Anas; too much land locked up, and irrational fear of people toting rifles in that area. We could always do what they do back east, and limit it to shotguns, with slugs. Yup, that simple to solve the deer problem, and no mountain lions needed.

I, for one, have a serious jones for venison sausage, steak, and burgers.
 
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