GG Smash and Grab!
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Cyclotourist
iMTB Hooligan
Good catch DPD/RTD!!!
mike
iMTB Hooligan
Damn, I missed all this drama...yes, good catch, DPD! TFPU, Steve.
I'll say it: Denver metro is a disgusting hole. Just like every big city – Phoenix, LA, Boston, Reno. You guys thinking Nirvana is in a state besides CA, think again. It matters little what state you live in. What matter is how close to a disgusting hole you're forced to live. All states have them. A whole lot of SoCal, sadly, falls into this classification, even outside major metro areas.
I'll say it: Denver metro is a disgusting hole. Just like every big city – Phoenix, LA, Boston, Reno. You guys thinking Nirvana is in a state besides CA, think again. It matters little what state you live in. What matter is how close to a disgusting hole you're forced to live. All states have them. A whole lot of SoCal, sadly, falls into this classification, even outside major metro areas.
mountaingirl sara
iMTB Hooligan
Awesomeness!!!^^^^^
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
I quite enjoyed LoDo when I lived out there (Lower Downtown Denver). We lived in Edgewater about three miles west. My friend and my brother lived in LoDo. Great night life and friendly people, however, it certainly has changed for the worse since we left in 1999. My brother got tired of stepping over bums sleeping in his building's lobby and got out of there about 2 years ago. My friend said it changed drastically when marijuana was legalized, and he and his wife moved out 6 months ago. My brother relocated to Genesee (foothills) and my friends moved to Sloan's lake area by St. Anthony's, with a weekend condo in Edwards (AKA Vail Valley).
Glad to hear that DPD and RTD recovered the bike. Glad they caught the scumbag thief too.
mike
iMTB Hooligan
FWIW, my friends who live here – downtown and also in Golden – think the slide began well before MJ reform in the state, around two decades ago as you noted. They gage it by when you could decide to ski on a weekend morning and still do it that day.
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Not trying to bag on the marijuana, just reporting what my fairly socially liberal friends who lived two blocks from Coors field reported. Their immediate neighborhood declined dramatically commensurate with the advent of dispensaries and a different "kind" of tourism.FWIW, my friends who live here – downtown and also in Golden – think the slide began well before MJ reform in the state, around two decades ago as you noted. They gage it by when you could decide to ski on a weekend morning and still do it that day.
But you are right. When I left in 1999, getting to and from the ski areas on a weekend was getting increasingly difficult to do. Past Morrison Rd. by 6:00am or you're hosed, even 20 years ago. Go home at 2:00 pm or 7:00 pm unless you like a three-hour crawl (even on dry roads).
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mike
iMTB Hooligan
Got ya. Interesting that there are no rec dispensaries in Golden. It must have been all those urchins creeping in from Lakewood and Wheat Ridge!
I kid. No absolute statements from me besides the area being a hole. I've never seen so many young and, apparently, able bodied, people panhandling. I blame the enablers handing out the cash just as much. Yes, some people legitimately are struggling with mental illness and addiction. Tons of drug use here – opiates, meth, nicotine, alky, Rockstar. Weed too, no doubt.
Good luck to GG and everyone forced to live in the metro area. It's got me stoked to be heading somewhere a bit less urban.
mtbMike
iMTB Rockstah
Whoa now.....I don’t know anything about Denver nowadays but while every city has some bad areas, I’m all over Boston and PHX on trips every year and I’ve yet to see areas like I see here at home in downtown San Diego, LA, Portland and god forsaken San Francisco. As soon as you tells the police it’s “hands off” the petty homeless crimes like shitting on public sidewalks, you can write that city off because it’s circling the drain.
mike
iMTB Hooligan
Well maybe it depends on experience. Because I lived for many years in those two cities, and I can say I’ve never seen the grim parts rivaled by those from any other from city. I’ve felt unsafe in all of them at times. They all have ghettos, crime and the rest. There is no good part of the country. Even Montana has Helena.
mtbMike
iMTB Rockstah
While crime can occur anywhere, and many times it's because people drive in from somewhere else, I'd argue that there are more good parts vs bad parts of the country. I don't go looking for the bad parts of any city and I'm sure it exists but Boston is one mega-city I've never wandered into some random neighborhood and wished I hadn't. May on my next trip in May
