expensive mtbike..

jaime

jaime

Well-Known Member
Will someone... anyone.... please explain me, why this beauty is way so expensive?
I'm still in desbelief.....
<a class="postlink" href="http://cycleryusa.com/product/bmc-trailfox-tf01-xtr-196736-1.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://cycleryusa.com/product/bmc-trail ... 6736-1.htm</a>
 
Yes, very overpriced....escpecially considering that it is not even the new 11 spd XTR.

Carbon wheels always add $2500 or so to the price.
 
Pretty insulting considering you have to replace the Fox XC suspension and vintage-2011 drive with stuff modern trail bikes come with for thousands less at full price. But hey, whatever the traffic will bear...
 
I'll bet it's way more fun than my $3500 Knolly! If I get that BMC, I'll beat all you suckas to the top of the hill because gravity won't affect me (going uphill). I will also kick your asses from here all the way back to Switzerland when I point that magic rocket downhill. I'll bet they have unlocked the secret to perfect suspension and handling. Ruts will not affect that bike. $12k bikes should be the new normal! I can't wait to show up to the Fully Loop court house parking lot with that bad boy strapped to my Range Rover. You will all be so JEALOUS!!!!

Actually, just think how bummed the new owner of that bike will be the first time he gets his teeth rattled by braking bumps, or slips out on a loose corner and realizes it's just a bike.

Ed Note: I just noticed it's a 29er and comes equipped with 2.4" Continentals. There goes your $12k weight advantage, right out the window. That's 3.5 lbs of tire.
 
It is so hard to understand. Compare the price of bikes to the price of motos and I am thinking I may switch sports.

Dean
 
dstepper said:
It is so hard to understand. Compare the price of bikes to the price of motos and I am thinking I may switch sports.

Dean
Click to expand...
Before you do that Dean, start pricing chains, sprockets, filters, tires........... Not to mention they are closing OHV access left and right.
 
At least it is a full suspension mt. bike. What's hard for me to understand is how a road bike can be $10k plus. A full sus mtb has to have bearings, bushings, pivots that all stand up to the massive abuse of dirt, grime and forces of riding choppy, rocky trails really fast. The parts have to perform multiple functions under ridiculous loads and angles. There are shocks and forks that have to perform amazing feats while being light and laterally stiff. The drivetrain has to perform shifts while the rear of the bike is moving, under crazy loads. Wheels, hubs, etc. When you think about it, our full sus mt. bikes are amazing creatures.Not hard to understand why they get so expensive, considering all that we expect them to do, at the weight we expect them to hit (26-29lbs with dropper post).

HOWEVER - a road bike has to do none of that. It just has to be light and laterally stiff. The drivetrain parts never move. The hubs and wheels do not have to land sideways off jumps, between rocks. The frame is not disconnected and reconnected using bearings, pivots or bushings. There are no shocks or suspension forks. How the hell does a road bike cost the same as a top-end mtb?

The bikes cost what the market will bear. So now, if you will excuse me, I have to go pick up my Pinarello Dogma. I hope it doesn't get run over by my kharma.
 
herzalot said:
At least it is a full suspension mt. bike. What's hard for me to understand is how a road bike can be $10k plus. A full sus mtb has to have bearings, bushings, pivots that all stand up to the massive abuse of dirt, grime and forces of riding choppy, rocky trails really fast. The parts have to perform multiple functions under ridiculous loads and angles. There are shocks and forks that have to perform amazing feats while being light and laterally stiff. The drivetrain has to perform shifts while the rear of the bike is moving, under crazy loads. Wheels, hubs, etc. When you think about it, our full sus mt. bikes are amazing creatures.Not hard to understand why they get so expensive, considering all that we expect them to do, at the weight we expect them to hit (26-29lbs with dropper post).

HOWEVER - a road bike has to do none of that. It just has to be light and laterally stiff. The drivetrain parts never move. The hubs and wheels do not have to land sideways off jumps, between rocks. The frame is not disconnected and reconnected using bearings, pivots or bushings. There are no shocks or suspension forks. How the hell does a road bike cost the same as a top-end mtb?

The bikes cost what the market will bear. So now, if you will excuse me, I have to go pick up my Pinarello Dogma. I hope it doesn't get run over by my kharma.
Click to expand...

The premise of road bikes is that you paying the least amount of material that you can...the more is better doesn't pertain there.
 
mtnbikej said:
The premise of road bikes is that you paying the least amount of material that you can...the more is better doesn't pertain there.
Click to expand...

Of course. But the engineering and manufacturing are not nearly as difficult as doing the same thing in Mtb - while still maintaining the function and purpose of a full sus bike. In other words - they do the same with mountain bikes and WAAAAAAAAY more for a much more demanding application. Road bikes require skimping on the material to the point of failure, then dialing it up a percent. That's about it.

I know Varaxis, Bing or a whole host of other engineers and/or roadies will start chiming in about how precise, aerodynamic and delicate road bikes have to be with flex points and blan blah blah - trying to justify the fact that a simple, two-triangle, rigid machine meant for relatively docile applications somehow justifies a $10k plus price tag. You'll not convince me. :|
 
dstepper said:
It is so hard to understand. Compare the price of bikes to the price of motos and I am thinking I may switch sports.

Dean
Click to expand...

I'll ride my bike, thank you very much. :D And the state won't ask me for money to keep it or ride it! WHAT no registration fees. :o Not possible! :o
No non-op fees when you decide to park it for a few years! NOT possible! :o :o
No gas needed! What you say! :o

This comes up often.
What does a moto cost that is carbon frame, bars, chainstays, wheels. Everything else being titanium, aluminum and carbon bits. Can be repaired on trail with whats in your camelbak.
While still being stiffer, lighter and faster than the rest. Of course, it has to fit a 5' lady and a 6'8" man, so must be built in 4 sizes.
No registration fees, and can hit the trails right outside my house at a moments notice. Won't scare the wildlife away as I ride the trails, because all I can hear are the tires on dirt.

I can't find one on the 'net, so it may not exist. Probably due to exceptional cost.
I did find a ducati road bike with carbon gas tank and fenders for $21k. And of course it has Marzocci suspension with 50mm ( YES 50!) of front suspension.
Missing the carbon frame, wheels, bars levers etc. and still requires registration fees.
I think not....
 
My point was not to start riding motos the was to point out the difference in the amount of machining and parts to build a moto compared to a bicycle. Maybe I need to spell things out better when I post, but I really just want to keep it short and not spell out the thought behind the post. Sometimes my lack of being specific makes for good reading. Sorry my intension is not to troll and get the anti moto crowd riled up.

Dean
 
dstepper said:
My point was not to start riding motos the was to point out the difference in the amount of machining and parts to build a moto compared to a bicycle. Maybe I need to spell things out better when I post, but I really just want to keep it short and not spell out the thought behind the post. Sometimes my lack of being specific makes for good reading. Sorry my intension is not to troll and get the anti moto crowd riled up.

Dean
Click to expand...

I get it, and no I did not take it a trolling!
This was my first opportunity to spell out my opinion, and point out material differences.

No harm, no foul!

We can still put a playing card in the spokes and pretend it's a Moto. Used to do that as a kid.
 
We can still put a playing card in the spokes and pretend it's a Moto. Used to do that as a kid.[/quote]

me too, or you can use an empty plastic water bottle between the fork and the tire....
 
This might be crazier than the $12,000 BMC...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hammacher.com/Product/12409?promo=search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hammacher.com/Product/12409?promo=search</a>

7 person tricycle.jpg
 
Faust29 said:
This might be crazier than the $12,000 BMC...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hammacher.com/Product/12409?promo=search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hammacher.com/Product/12409?promo=search</a>
Click to expand...


And it asks "how many" on the order button. :lol:
Uh, I think I'll take 8 of them..
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top