Danmtchl
iMTB Rockstah
Has anyone heard of this company? I know someone who raced one this weekend at Bootleg Canyon.
https://eminentcycles.com/
https://eminentcycles.com/
Eminent Cycles
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herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
That's a nice looking bike. Love the continuous line from the head tube to the rear axle. Their XL (68cm) is huge. I would have to get a size down!
Seat tube angle is a little slack at 73°.
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dustyyoungblood
Guest
It’s interesting. Suspension Borrows from old, brought into new. Wondering how it will turn out compared to big box brands.
One thing i say no to, frames than do not have the seat post connected to the B.B., or at least very close to. That eminent has the B.B. cantilevered out very far.
One thing i say no to, frames than do not have the seat post connected to the B.B., or at least very close to. That eminent has the B.B. cantilevered out very far.
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Eminent Cycles
Newbie with Hope!
Our first review is live on Bike Magazines site. Check it out:
https://www.bikemag.com/gear/mountain-bikes/tested-eminent-cycles-haste/
we have demo bikes available at our offices in San Diego. Let me know if anyone would like to try one out
https://www.bikemag.com/gear/mountain-bikes/tested-eminent-cycles-haste/
we have demo bikes available at our offices in San Diego. Let me know if anyone would like to try one out
Eminent Cycles
Newbie with Hope!
Id encourage you to ride it. The number 1 comment we get is that the bike pedals like something with much less travel. The upside is that if you get into more technical stuff or take a weekend trip to Snow Summit, you have the added travel to handle it
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Hi @Eminent Cycles Nice of you to join in! I like that. An upstart company we can talk to!
So tell us about accessing the rear brake for fine tuning and/or pad changes, and tell us about lateral stiffness in the bottom bracket area (which appears kind of unsupported).
Beautiful bike. I'd be more than happy to test one out!
I'm 6'4" with a long torso. 210 lbs unkitted. I like rocks.
So tell us about accessing the rear brake for fine tuning and/or pad changes, and tell us about lateral stiffness in the bottom bracket area (which appears kind of unsupported).
Beautiful bike. I'd be more than happy to test one out!
I'm 6'4" with a long torso. 210 lbs unkitted. I like rocks.
Eminent Cycles
Newbie with Hope!
Come by and test one out. I guarantee your be impressed with the stiffness and adjusting the brake is not an issue at allHi @Eminent Cycles Nice of you to join in! I like that. An upstart company we can talk to!
So tell us about accessing the rear brake for fine tuning and/or pad changes, and tell us about lateral stiffness in the bottom bracket area (which appears kind of unsupported).
Beautiful bike. I'd be more than happy to test one out!
Eminent Cycles
Newbie with Hope!
check out the new review on Vital MTB
https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Eminent/Haste-Pro,22455#product-reviews/3141
https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Eminent/Haste-Pro,22455#product-reviews/3141
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
Congrats on a solid review. Interesting that they rated climbing even higher than descending. Also, looks like you've done a nice job keeping the prices attractive. I wish you the best! Hard to pry the Santa Cruzes out of the hands of these IMTB guys, but there are many riders who are looking for something equal but different.
Runs with Scissors
iMTB Hooligan
Congrats on a solid review. Interesting that they rated climbing even higher than descending. Also, looks like you've done a nice job keeping the prices attractive. I wish you the best! Hard to pry the Santa Cruzes out of the hands of these IMTB guys, but there are many riders who are looking for something equal but different.
Climbing is always > than descending.
Eminent Cycles
Newbie with Hope!
Thanks! We tried to design the bike so you could ride it on your local trails and still hit the bike park with confidence on the weekend. So climbing was certainly important to us. Too many bikes going for the extremes in geometry and purpose. Long low and slack is great if your riding the lift all day or shuttling but not so much if you need to pedal it uphill.Climbing is always > than descending.
Danmtchl
iMTB Rockstah
I read the review the other day, congratulations and hope you do well. I am a believer in smaller bicycle companies and try to support them as much as I can.
Eminent Cycles
Newbie with Hope!
Thanks! if you are ever in San Diego please stop by the offices and say hello
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
I just threw up in my mouth a little...Climbing is always > than descending.
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Runs with Scissors
iMTB Hooligan
There are meds for that....
doublewide
iMTB Rockstah
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
herzalot
iMTB Hooligan
OK, here goes. I did demo a Haste today. It's great to be able to try a bike on a full outing of my usual trails. Thank you Eminent. I just did a typical Saturday ride, but starting in the Canyon. Up Stair Steps, down Rock-It, up to and down 5-Oaks, up Cholla, down Stairs, up Willow, down T and A.
Short attention span answer. I like the suspension design and the behavior of the rear of the bike.
The bike: Red XL Haste. 27.5" wheels. Cane Creek DBair CS shock, Cane Creek Helm air 170 fork, Carbon bars. Same tire setup that I run - Minion DHF 2.30 front, Minion DHR II 2.30 rear. DT Swiss Spline wheelset. XT brakes. Shimano drivetrain. Fox Transfer dropper post.
Trail by trail:
First thing I noticed as soon as I started pedaling on Laguna Canyon Road (paved) is that the front end was lively, almost twitchy. It was easier to loft than any bike in recent memory. That makes no sense, since it has the longest chainstays of any bike I've ever ridden (about 17.3"). It's also slacker by a degree than my bike. I also had quite a bit of drop from my hips to my hands, as I do on my bike. Odd.
Going up Phillips road and pushing up Stair Steps sucked as always. Having a 30 x 46 instead of my 30 x 42 means I sucked slower.
Rock It. Initial impressions - the rear felt pretty plush. I was cautious about the twitchy front end because I didn't want it tucking under resulting in a Taylor. (@tbarnesarc). Hauling ass into the rock garden, looking for my usual lines, I noticed it was not quite as confidence-inspiring as my current ride. I rolled off the throttle about 10%. The stutter bumps at the bottom felt a little smoother on the rear than on my bike, but the fork wasn't doing any better.
Up to 5-Oaks. Hmmm, even though this bike is heavier than mine, it feels more eager at the pedals on mild uphill gradients. I felt like I was getting more speed for my effort. I used the Climb Switch on the Cane Creek, but I also did some climbing with it off. The fork had no climb control, so if I stood, it bobbed like crazy.
Down 5-Oaks. I was getting a little more comfortable with the twitchy front end, but focusing on the rear. The fierce stutter bumps at the top were definitely smoother than on my Tracer. I made a point to pay attention to any rear end flex when I hit the lower bermed turns. Seemed pretty solid laterally.
Wood Canyon to Cholla. Noticing the eagerness at the pedals again, even though my energy levels were pretty low today, and it was getting warm. Climbing Cholla sucks on any bike, and the Haste was no different. The lower gearing only made me go slower, but it didn't hurt less. The second gear was too hard for me. I'm used to my gear combo (30 x 42). The rear tracked the tech just fine at the top of the climb. The front was much harder for me to control than I am used to. I had to deliberately keep my chest way down.
Stair Steps. Pretty fast run. Rear felt good, front was OK. Solid support. Didn't dive. I hit the lines I wanted.
Up Willow. Again, the steep part felt like any other bike. But once the gradient eased, the bike was again more eager at the pedals than my Tracer. Climbing with CS on or off both felt good. Did I ever mention I love Cane Creek rear shocks?
Down T and A. By now I was getting more confident with the liveliness of the front of the bike and I enjoyed flicking it around. The fork still beat the hell out of me on the middle section. No problems with the lines through the chunk at the bottom. Good run, but my hands and forearms were worked, and my legs were tired.
We attributed the twitchy front end to running a 50mm stem instead of my usual 70mm.
My takeaway? It's stiffer laterally than my Tracer. The suspension design is both more plush and felt more efficient climbing - not a ton of either, but perceptible. The floating brake was noticeable if braking in chop. Less stiffening of the suspension and less apt to skid.
Bottom Line: I want to try this bike again, with a different fork and maybe a longer stem. The cockpit was roomier than my Tracer, so I hesitate to go too long on the stem. Maybe split the difference. I like the suspension design a lot, and the concerns of the rear end being flexy are not warranted.
Side Note:
The Cane Creek Helm was not great. 170mm of travel, but not plush, and very progressive at the end of the stroke. I could not run less air, because I was gobbling up half the travel just riding along. My Fox 36 is better. But maybe the Helm could be fine tuned. The boys at Eminent didn't like the Helm either.
Side Note 2:
I like Shimano drivetrains better, but I spun out so early on Rock-It I swear I was running a 28 T chainring. Nope, but what a difference one tooth makes in the rear between my 10T SRAM and the Shimano 11t.
Short attention span answer. I like the suspension design and the behavior of the rear of the bike.
The bike: Red XL Haste. 27.5" wheels. Cane Creek DBair CS shock, Cane Creek Helm air 170 fork, Carbon bars. Same tire setup that I run - Minion DHF 2.30 front, Minion DHR II 2.30 rear. DT Swiss Spline wheelset. XT brakes. Shimano drivetrain. Fox Transfer dropper post.
Trail by trail:
First thing I noticed as soon as I started pedaling on Laguna Canyon Road (paved) is that the front end was lively, almost twitchy. It was easier to loft than any bike in recent memory. That makes no sense, since it has the longest chainstays of any bike I've ever ridden (about 17.3"). It's also slacker by a degree than my bike. I also had quite a bit of drop from my hips to my hands, as I do on my bike. Odd.
Going up Phillips road and pushing up Stair Steps sucked as always. Having a 30 x 46 instead of my 30 x 42 means I sucked slower.
Rock It. Initial impressions - the rear felt pretty plush. I was cautious about the twitchy front end because I didn't want it tucking under resulting in a Taylor. (@tbarnesarc). Hauling ass into the rock garden, looking for my usual lines, I noticed it was not quite as confidence-inspiring as my current ride. I rolled off the throttle about 10%. The stutter bumps at the bottom felt a little smoother on the rear than on my bike, but the fork wasn't doing any better.
Up to 5-Oaks. Hmmm, even though this bike is heavier than mine, it feels more eager at the pedals on mild uphill gradients. I felt like I was getting more speed for my effort. I used the Climb Switch on the Cane Creek, but I also did some climbing with it off. The fork had no climb control, so if I stood, it bobbed like crazy.
Down 5-Oaks. I was getting a little more comfortable with the twitchy front end, but focusing on the rear. The fierce stutter bumps at the top were definitely smoother than on my Tracer. I made a point to pay attention to any rear end flex when I hit the lower bermed turns. Seemed pretty solid laterally.
Wood Canyon to Cholla. Noticing the eagerness at the pedals again, even though my energy levels were pretty low today, and it was getting warm. Climbing Cholla sucks on any bike, and the Haste was no different. The lower gearing only made me go slower, but it didn't hurt less. The second gear was too hard for me. I'm used to my gear combo (30 x 42). The rear tracked the tech just fine at the top of the climb. The front was much harder for me to control than I am used to. I had to deliberately keep my chest way down.
Stair Steps. Pretty fast run. Rear felt good, front was OK. Solid support. Didn't dive. I hit the lines I wanted.
Up Willow. Again, the steep part felt like any other bike. But once the gradient eased, the bike was again more eager at the pedals than my Tracer. Climbing with CS on or off both felt good. Did I ever mention I love Cane Creek rear shocks?
Down T and A. By now I was getting more confident with the liveliness of the front of the bike and I enjoyed flicking it around. The fork still beat the hell out of me on the middle section. No problems with the lines through the chunk at the bottom. Good run, but my hands and forearms were worked, and my legs were tired.
We attributed the twitchy front end to running a 50mm stem instead of my usual 70mm.
My takeaway? It's stiffer laterally than my Tracer. The suspension design is both more plush and felt more efficient climbing - not a ton of either, but perceptible. The floating brake was noticeable if braking in chop. Less stiffening of the suspension and less apt to skid.
Bottom Line: I want to try this bike again, with a different fork and maybe a longer stem. The cockpit was roomier than my Tracer, so I hesitate to go too long on the stem. Maybe split the difference. I like the suspension design a lot, and the concerns of the rear end being flexy are not warranted.
Side Note:
The Cane Creek Helm was not great. 170mm of travel, but not plush, and very progressive at the end of the stroke. I could not run less air, because I was gobbling up half the travel just riding along. My Fox 36 is better. But maybe the Helm could be fine tuned. The boys at Eminent didn't like the Helm either.
Side Note 2:
I like Shimano drivetrains better, but I spun out so early on Rock-It I swear I was running a 28 T chainring. Nope, but what a difference one tooth makes in the rear between my 10T SRAM and the Shimano 11t.
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