Drop the Jop

StrandLeper

StrandLeper

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Ride Name: Drop the Jop
When: Monday Morning, January 2
Time: 7 or 8 ish
Where: J-Zilla's hood, Cleveland Nat'l Forest
Ride Description or Details:
Climb Maple Springs, drop motorway, climb Maple Springs again to the Joplin, drop it like it's hot!
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Meet Location: Peltzer Pines Xmas tree farm
Skill Level: Intermediate, Advanced, Storm Trooper
Ride Pace: Moderate Pace
Type of Ride: Loop
Rider Limit: No limit
Anticipated Mileage: I haven't mapped it out. 30ish maybe
Elevation Gain: I haven't plotted it out. 6k maybe
Ride Duration: I have no clue. 4-5 hours, likely
Previous Ride Reports: Lots by @mike and @faust and @Jzilla for the different segments, none for this loopdy loop.
Possible Bail-Outs: Lots. At the end of the first lap, then a few during the second lap. Maybe we just do one lap. This is a STORM or SHINE ride... with possible route alterations if storm.
Facilities: In Silverado, then none.
Food/water suggestions: double bottle minimum. Can refill during second lap through Silverado.
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StrandLeper said:
Don't have time to get the numbers completely dialed right now, will update over weekend. Just wanted to throw this out there. @mike? :)
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Ask and you shall receive:

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2 Bottles may be a little light. There is no water available past about 1 mile into Silverado Canyon. Actually neither route has any water. You COULD stash some water at the bottom of Motorway. However that is still a stout 2nd loop on 2 bottles. 2 would be fine for the first loop MS/MW.....but I would prefer 3 on the back half.
 
HBkites said:
I had done Maple to Motorway before (but never Joplin), why is the tree farm part of the loop (if you end up at the bottom of SST)?
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It looks like you gotta start somewhere.

From the Tree Farm up Silverado is a nice warm up before you get to Maple Springs.

Kinda like asking......if you are going to do Counting Coup on your own, where would you park your car and start?

Plus after 7500' of climbing, the last thing you wanna do is have to climb up Silverado Canyon.
 
I am tentatively in for at least the first loop! I've been fighting the crud the entire time we were in Big Bear, so I don't want to overpromise... I was just starting to feel good on the bike again, so I'm hopeful!

Jason had to point out the "spring" the first couple times we rode it... It's more of a wet dirt patch than an actual spring.

StrandLeper said:
Is there a spring at Maple Springs? ;) Because of the weather, I will be bringing a water back pack (for water and storing layers) and will have two bottles.
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Mikie said:
Not if lower Joplin is involved! So tempted but I don't think I have 8k in me either. Plus 7:am in OC is a bit much...
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So... Figure 3 hours for the group to finish Motorway which ends right at the start of the Maple Springs climb... And join for the second loop to Joplin! That would make it (roughly) 10:00.

Edit: Tim would comfortably finish that loop faster than 3 hours, but as it's his first time on that end of the mountain range, there will be some "Oh, wow" moments with the views... :thumbsup:
 
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Mikie said:
Not if lower Joplin is involved! So tempted but I don't think I have 8k in me either. Plus 7:am in OC is a bit much...
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A respectful fyi:

'Lower Joplin' is actually below Old Camp off the STT, starting just past the top of Cadillac and dropping to Rose Canyon. A super fun trail and coincidentally like a mellow Motorway. But OCTA decided the best way to mitigate their bus system on city streets was to shut outdoor enthusiasts out of the outdoors. So they bought land at the bottom of the trail and blocked legal egress.

Middle Joplin is the key descent on this ride, from the North Main Divide down to Old Camp. And yeah, good place to drop your seat, er..saddle. You could even throw it away, but you might need it later.
 
kioti said:
A respectful fyi:

'Lower Joplin' is actually below Old Camp off the STT, starting just past the top of Cadillac and dropping to Rose Canyon. A super fun trail and coincidentally like a mellow Motorway. But OCTA decided the best way to mitigate their bus system on city streets was to shut outdoor enthusiasts out of the outdoors. So they bought land at the bottom of the trail and blocked legal egress.

Middle Joplin is the key descent on this ride, from the North Main Divide down to Old Camp. And yeah, good place to drop your seat, er..saddle. You could even throw it away, but you might need it later.
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Which really bites... I can see it from my bedroom window and I've never ridden it! Having access to it would really open up some nice loops. :thumbsdown:
 
Faust29 said:
Which really bites... I can see it from my bedroom window and I've never ridden it! Having access to it would really open up some nice loops. :thumbsdown:
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You can ride it without controversy by descending from the STT; then turning around and climbing back up it. It's as good a climb as it is a descent. Probably super pretty right now, too. If you choose to ride it this way, consider turning around at the big washout. Otherwise it gets a little H.A.Bikie. Oh, and watch out for hidden rocks in the brush.. there might be a couple foot-breakers.
 
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